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PASR29-30: Jon “Stugotz” Weiner – ESPN Radio




Part 1 – Episode #29

Part 2 – Episode #30


“I think early on my biggest weakness was taking myself too seriously, but again, to Dan [LeBatard]’s credit, he kind of got that out of me.” – Jon “Stugotz” Weiner

Imagine a guy in love with sports radio, so much so that he decided he’d leave a nice little job at Madison Square Garden, in the shadows of his hometown, to pursue it.

Sure, it was Miami, but the tradeoff was that Jon Weiner would be paid in something that resembled a slight upgrade over donuts.

And then he loved sports radio so much that he’d start his own station.

And then, eventually, be on ESPN Radio.

You might believe it.  But then again, with the character he plays on radio, you might not believe that this was Stugotz–the sports-loving, say-whatever-consequences-be-damned jokester who co-hosts The Dan LeBatard Show with Stugotz on ESPN Radio.

Check out more of the show notes below to get a feel for what you will hear in this edition of The PASR. I hope you enjoy and, as always, leave a comment to get out anything that this podcast had you thinking along the way.


  • Stugotz recalls how he came to the realization that sports radio was something that he wanted to do.
  • Stugotz takes us on a journey down memory lane, which included a stint working under Hank Goldberg.
  • How did Stugotz help start 790 The Ticket in Miami?
  • Stugotz talks about how 790 the ticket became the number one sports station in the market.
  • Was there a moment where Stugotz thought the show was going to be a long term thing?
  • How much different is Jon Weiner from Stugotz?
  • Stugotz explains the difficulties of working morning and afternoon shows at one point, and eventually parting ways with then executive producer Marc Hochman.
  • “I don’t measure consequences really well…” Stugotz mentions the biggest annoyance that Dan has with him.
  • Stugotz mentions what annoys him most about Dan.
  • Stugotz lets us know what some of his favorite show benchmarks are.
  • Stugotz tells us who he thinks is great at sports radio, besides anyone inside his show.
  • “How do I do what Dan and Stu are doing…” Stugotz gives us some valuable advice on how to not only get your foot in, but also succeed in this business.
  • Everyone has weaknesses, but what is Stugotz’s?
  • Stugotz informs us of some of his biggest influences, outside of people at his workplace.
  • Stugotz reflects on that one moment where he realized he made it in this business.
  • Why was it such a significant moment when Stugotz was able to bring his dad to ESPN to watch him do First Take live?
  • How long was Stugotz going to give himself to make it in radio, and what would his alternative option be?


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BSM Podcast – Season 5 – Episode 3 – Chris Oliviero, Entercom New York

“Entercom New York Market Manager Chris Oliviero explains why he returned to the business, how he feels about the state of WFAN and a reunion with Craig Carton, and more!”



After building a career as one of the sharpest programming executives in the radio industry, and leaving the business in the summer of 2018, many were surprised when Chris Oliviero was announced as the new Market Manager of Entercom New York in May 2020. On this episode, Chris tells Jason Barrett why he decided to return to the business, what he learned while on the outside, how he feels about the present and future of WFAN, where he stands on pursuing a reunion with Craig Carton, in addition to weighing in on a number of industry topics as well.

Additionally, Jason Barrett shares breaking news about a new venture being explored by his company which industry professionals will be interested in learning more about. Further details will be shared after Labor Day but the basics are passed along during the first minutes of the episode.


  • When the deal to become Market Manager came together
  • What convinced him to return to the radio business
  • What he learned and missed about the industry while away from it
  • If local management is enough to satisfy his professional desires
  • Confidence level in WFAN; what the brand needs to do to enjoy future success
  • Planning for the day when Mark Chernoff rides off into the sunset
  • How interested he is in reuniting Craig Carton and WFAN
  • Why the mistakes of a few can’t take away from social media’s value to talent, brands, and the audience
  • If more radio companies will follow Saga & Townsquare’s lead and move away from Nielsen
  • The future of live and on-demand audio content
  • How sports betting will influence the way sports talk radio is presented in the next 5-10 years


Connect with Chris on Linkedin: Chris Oliviero

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BSM Podcast – Season 5 – Episode 2 – Mike Greenberg, ESPN Radio

“Mike Greenberg chats with Jason Barrett about his new radio show ‘Greeny’ which debuts on ESPN Radio on Monday August 17th.”



Mike Greenberg returns to ESPN Radio’s airwaves on Monday August 17th, taking over the 12p-2p ET timeslot, a change from his morning routine. Secure with a place in the NAB radio hall of fame, the lead chair on ESPN’s hit television program ‘Get Up‘, and 32,000+ hours of on-air broadcasting under his belt, some in Mike’s position would pass on the chance to increase their work load, and accept a new challenge, but that’s not how Greeny operates. In this conversation, Mike shares what interested him about returning to host a solo midday program, how content will be approached on the show, the method to his madness when it comes to interviewing and teasing, advice he’s passed on to the network’s new morning show, and more.

Additionally, BSM President Jason Barrett spends 5 minutes prior to the conversation sharing a few observations, opinions, and questions about ESPN Radio’s changes.


  • When he started thinking about returning to radio
  • Launching new shows and handling negative feedback
  • His vision and content approach for the new midday show
  • How social issues will be covered on the program
  • Winning over listeners who prefer local hosts
  • The way he approaches interviewing and teasing
  • Remembering Detroit sports radio host Jamie Samuelsen
  • The likelihood of football still being played in December


Follow Mike on Twitter: @ESPNGreeny

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BSM Podcast – Season 5 – Episode 1 – Sam Savage, Outkick

“Sam explains his vision for Outkick, why he chose to invest in the brand, and shares some news on the company’s upcoming plans.”



Sam Savage may not be the name you’re most familiar with if you follow Outkick, but he’s a huge part of the brand’s expansion in recent weeks. The longtime digital media executive recently invested in the company, joining forces with Clay Travis and Jason Whitlock, and on this episode he sheds some light on why he chose to invest in Outkick during a rough 2020, what his vision is for the brand’s future, why understanding technology is even more important than brand exposure on traditional media, and where he sees the company directing its focus in the near and distant future.

Additionally, the first 10-minutes include an opening commentary from BSM President Jason Barrett on the status of the Managing The Crisis podcast, the BSM Podcast’s seasonal approach, and the importance of hearing and welcoming different points of view, and providing second chances to those who make mistakes.


  • His background as a digital media executive
  • Why he chose to invest in Outkick during a rough 2020
  • The reason for shortening the Outkick name
  • Luring Jason Whitlock to Outkick from FS1
  • Whether adding Whitlock could create tension with FOX
  • If Outkick can survive and thrive without traditional media
  • Building systems and strategies to increase Outkick’s revenue
  • Dealing with potential advertiser issues due to activism
  • What separates successful digital media brands
  • Outkick’s future plans in the podcasting space
  • If the goal is to build & sell or be part of Outkick long term
  • Whether Shannon Terry, FOX or iHeart could become future partners
  • Which goals he’s set for Outkick’s next 6 months
  • If the brand plans to add more talent in the near future


Sam’s Linkedin profile: Sam Savage 

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