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When Will The Sports Radio Bubble Burst?

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7 years agoon
In August, FX Networks CEO John Landgraf spoke at the Television Critics Association summer tour about the state of the television industry. Landgraf said “I long ago lost the ability to keep track of every scripted TV series, but this year, I finally lost the ability to keep track of every programmer who is in the scripted programming business. This is simply too much television, and my sense is that 2015 or 2016 will represent peak TV in America, and then we’ll begin to see declines coming the year after and beyond.”
On the other hand, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings shares a different point of view. Speaking last week at The New York Times DealBook Conference he said “John’s wrong. There’s not nearly enough. There’s a lot more food than ever before, there’s a lot more choice, but I think when you do great content you’re going to find viewers. It comes back to entertainment spending, and entertainment spending has been increasing faster than disposable income for decades. I think as we come up with new experiences, when you look at virtual reality and how that’s going to improve video gaming, you’re seeing continued investment in entertainment.”
Both men raise interesting points and a case can be made for each but I’m not here to analyze whether television has too much programming. I want to spin it towards the sports radio industry because the same question deserves to be asked – are there too many stations operating the format, and does that hurt the format’s ability to generate higher ratings and larger revenues?
When you look at the sports radio landscape today, there are 5 national networks offering the product full time. If you want to include Sports Byline that makes 6.
Then you have SiriusXM which provides national content through Mad Dog Radio and Bleacher Report, and delivers targeted content on channels such as NBA Radio, MLB Home Plate, the NFL channel, NHL Radio and College Sports Nation.
That’s just the national talk part of the conversation. Now let’s add play-by-play into the mix.
Westwood One, Sports Radio USA, Compass Media Networks, IMG, Learfield Communications, and the Touchdown Radio Network all play in this space, and I may be missing one or two but you get the picture.
Now let’s take a look at the local markets. For the sake of this conversation, I’m going to focus on the Top 25 markets. If we went beyond that, you’d find many smaller markets featuring the same amount of choice which is even more alarming considering there are less people and advertisers in many of these places.
MARKET | STATIONS |
NEW YORK CITY | WFAN, 98.7 ESPN NY |
LOS ANGELES | ESPN LA 710, 570 KLAC, 980 THE BEAST, AM 830 KLAA |
CHICAGO | 670 THE SCORE, ESPN 1000 |
SAN FRANCISCO | KNBR 680, 95.7 THE GAME, 1050 KNBR |
DALLAS | 105.3 THE FAN, 1310 THE TICKET, ESPN 103.3 |
HOUSTON | 610 KILT, ESPN 97.5, SPORTS TALK 790, 1560 KGOW |
WASHINGTON DC | 106.7 THE FAN, ESPN 980, CBS SPORTS RADIO 1580 |
PHILADELPHIA | 97.5 THE FANATIC, 94 WIP, 610 SPORTS |
ATLANTA | 92.9 THE GAME, 680 THE FAN, ESPN 1230, FOX SPORTS 1340 |
BOSTON | 93.7 WEEI, 98.5 THE SPORTS HUB, ESPN WEEI 850 |
MIAMI | 790 THE TICKET, 560 WQAM, 640 SPORTS, 940 WINZ |
DETROIT | 97.1 THE TICKET, DETROIT SPORTS 105.1, WDFN 1130AM |
SEATTLE | 710 ESPN, 950 KJR, 1090 THE FAN |
PHOENIX | ARIZONA SPORTS 98.7, FOX SPORTS 910, NBC SPORTS 1060 |
MINNEAPOLIS | KFAN 100.3, 1500 ESPN |
SAN DIEGO | MIGHTY 1090, XTRA SPORTS 1360 |
DENVER | 104.3 THE FAN, 105.5 ESPN, MILE HIGH SPORTS 1340AM |
TAMPA | 620 WDAE, 1040 THE TEAM |
BALTIMORE | 105.7 THE FAN, WNST AM 1570, CBS SPORTS RADIO 1300 |
ST. LOUIS | 101 ESPN, CBS SPORTS 920, 590 THE FAN, 1490 THE CHAMP |
PORTLAND | 1080 THE FAN, RIP CITY RADIO 620, 750 THE GAME, 910 ESPN |
CHARLOTTE | 610 THE FAN, ESPN 730, FOX SPORTS 98.7 |
PITTSBURGH | 93.7 THE FAN, 970 ESPN |
SAN ANTONIO | ESPN 1250, THE TICKET 760, CBS SPORTS RADIO 860 |
SACRAMENTO | KHTK 1140, ESPN 1320 |
As crowded as the list above might be, I’m not even close to being done.
In Pittsburgh and Boston for example, The Boston Herald and the Pittsburgh Tribune have their own full service sports radio stations online through their websites. Those count as programming options which pull away sports radio listeners.
In most of these markets, you’ll find News/Talk brands that also dabble in sports. To shed light on a few, KMOX and KTRS in St. Louis, have produced sports talk at night and on the weekends along with carrying play by play. KOA in Denver, WGN in Chicago, WOR in New York, and WCCO in Minneapolis have all followed a similar strategy.
Then you have music brands which also get involved. In Pittsburgh, 105.9 The X offers music throughout the day, and Mark Madden’s afternoon sports show and Pittsburgh Penguins hockey. 102.5 WDVE which is also in Pittsburgh and a classic rock brand, is the home for Pittsburgh Steelers football.
I haven’t even touched on the stations that offer sports programming in Spanish. When you add them into this conversation, it becomes even more congested.
As of January 2015, the sports format was the 4th largest at 794 stations in the United States. Only Country, News/Talk and Spanish formats received more clearance. Growth has been consistent for nearly a decade, and to put it in perspective, in 2005 there were 500 sports stations, which means that there’s been nearly 60% growth during the past 10 years.
But is that a good thing?
In many of these markets, stations are clearing the programming and using the clearance to justify larger dollars from national advertisers, but the performance is minimal. While the industry loves to tout the number 794 to illustrate massive interest in the programming, it’s a case of smoke and mirrors. Yes there are brands doing a phenomenal job to captivate audiences, but there are also hundreds who are filling air time with national content, and not generating ratings or revenue.
What becomes more puzzling is when you look at the total percentage of audience who consume sports radio. The format’s success is largely dependent on Men 25-54, and even if you stretched the demographic to Men 18-64, an entire market might produce 15-25% of listening. Certain cities like Boston and Detroit may outperform that number, but as a whole this is where we are.
If that’s the percentage of listening that’s available, then how can 4-5 brands operate the format in one local city and expect to run a successful business?
Some folks will point to stations that only offer national content on a smaller brand and say that they shouldn’t count, but the way I see it, if a station can be heard in a local market, and sports programming exists on it, then it counts. If that station pulls in a half a point of listening, that’s a half a point that didn’t go to one of the other sports radio brands in the market.
You can make a case that a city like New York which has close to 15 million people and 9 professional sports teams, can support three sports stations. Dallas and Houston have already demonstrated that three can work, but Los Angeles, Chicago and San Francisco haven’t had the same luck. However, I can’t see three to four sports brands being successful in a market like St. Louis, Portland, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore.
Seattle and Minneapolis (which have a larger population than each of those four cities) tried to introduce a third sports talker over the past few years only to fail. Another similar sized city, Tampa, saw its only FM sports brand (98.7 The Fan) get flipped when the station was sold by CBS to Beasley. The feeling was that the pie wasn’t large enough, even though The Fan had started to make inroads.
It may sound good when we tell people the format is nearly 800 stations strong, but the performance can’t match the distribution. Many in the industry today believe there are too many networks offering national programming. The same can be said of play-by-play providers, and local markets with too many choices and not enough people to listen to them.
With digital listening growing, it’s only a matter of time until the options for consuming content become even smaller. Television is on the verge of an ala carte viewing world, and radio will experience the same fate. The listener today has less time, more distractions, and they want more control, and once the inside of their vehicle matches their cell phone or computer, it’s going to be a game changer. It won’t matter if you have distribution, it’ll matter if your brand and personalities are important enough to be consumed.
To put it in simpler terms, a personality like Bill Simmons will be more valuable than an entire radio station. Users won’t care if the content is distributed through radio or a podcast. If it’s digital or terrestrial radio. If the show is on a station with a big signal or a digital channel that can be picked up by having a wifi connection. You can offer them ten different local outlets to enjoy sports programming and they’re going to go to the one that supplies them consistently with the best content experience.
This discussion started with two CEO’s disagreeing over whether or not there is too much programming on television. I connect more with FX Networks CEO John Landgraf who says there are too many choices, and I believe the same holds true for sports radio.
Being available as an option on the dial is one thing, but standing out on it is another. It’s not about quantity, it’s about quality. That’s what sports radio groups need to focus on because without high quality programming it’s only a matter of time before a brand is obsolete.
I can’t help but think about how much better our format would be in local markets if the best content and people weren’t so divided between so many stations. They say there’s strength in numbers, but I’m not so sure that’s accurate in this case.
Crunching The Numbers:
WDAE in Tampa enjoyed a good October book. The station finished 7th with a 4.9 in the desired Men 25-54 demographic. That was up from 3.8 in September, and a 4.3 during the same time last year.
KNBR in San Francisco turned in a great October, finishing 1st with a 6.3 with Men 25-54. Year to year the station was down nearly three points (9.2) but but that’s largely due to the San Francisco Giants winning the World Series last year.
95.7 The Game in San Francisco had a strong month finishing 6th with a 4.1 with Men 25-54. The station was up from 3.9 in September, and beat KNBR in the 12p-3p timeslot. The Game’s “Papa and Lund” finished in that slot in 3rd with a 5.2. KNBR’s “Fitz & Brooks” were 4th with a 4.7.

Jason Barrett is the owner and operator of Barrett Sports Media. Prior to launching BSM he served as a sports radio programmer, launching brands such as 95.7 The Game in San Francisco and 101 ESPN in St. Louis. He has also produced national shows for ESPN Radio including GameNight and the Dan Patrick Show. You can find him on Twitter @SportsRadioPD or reach him by email at JBarrett@sportsradiopd.com.

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Rachel Nichols and Baron Davis Headline Final Speaker Announcements For the 2023 BSM Summit
“I’m sure Baron and Rachel will have all eyes and ears focused on them when they take the stage together next Tuesday at 2:45pm PT.”

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2 days agoon
March 16, 2023
The 2023 BSM Summit schedule is set. After months of planning and talking to everyone across the industry, I’m ecstatic to roll out next week’s agenda including making one final announcement involving seven great additions to our conference.
For starters, it is a pleasure to welcome Showtime’s Rachel Nichols to the BSM Summit. I’ve admired her work on television for years, and am thrilled to have her guiding a session which I think many in the room are going to really enjoy.
Rachel’s guest will be former NBA star Baron Davis. Baron runs his own company, Baron Davis Enterprises, and he has been active in investing in media brands, and exploring ways to evolve the industry. Among his areas of passion, athletes taking more control of their brands, and the media industry needing to improve its track record with diversity. I’m sure Baron and Rachel will have all eyes and ears focused on them when they take the stage together next Tuesday at 2:45pm PT.
Also joining the Summit are a few longtime industry friends. For starters, VSiN’s program director Jon Goulet is someone who I’ve known and worked with, and he understands the sports betting audio space extremely well. Jon and BetQL VP of Programming Mitch Rosen will spend time with another industry friend, Bryan Curtis of The Ringer. Collectively they’ll examine the state of sports betting audio on Tuesday March 21st from 3:35p-4:10p, and what they look for when it comes to sports betting talent, and how they determine what is and isn’t success in the sports gambling content world.
With Mitch taking part in the sports betting panel, Jeff Rickard of WFNZ in Charlotte steps into The Programmer’s Panel alongside Jimmy Powers, John Mamola and Raj Sharan. The session is scheduled for Wednesday March 22nd from 9:10a-9:45a PT. Ironically, all four of these programmers work for different companies, so it’ll be interesting to hear how they differ and where they align while navigating through a few sports radio programming topics.
Next, I’m excited to introduce a social media session with Karlo Sy Su of ESPN Los Angeles and Matthew Demeke of AM 570 LA Sports. If you look at the performance of their brands on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and Facebook, they’ve each delivered strong audiences and engagement. I’m looking forward to hosting this one and learning about their processes, how they decide which platforms to focus on most, what they consider a social media win when analyzing social statistics, and how they develop their content process. Given our location, we’re calling the session ‘Social Media Goes Hollywood‘. It’s scheduled for Wednesday March 22nd from 3:35-4:10 PT.
I realize you’re not going to remember all of these session speakers and times off the top of your head, so to make it easier, log on to BSMSummit.com and scroll down past our speakers. That’s where you’ll find our detailed list of sessions/times and activities planned each day. We have eighteen sessions, two awards ceremonies, and two parties. Our kickoff party is presented by the WWE and takes place Monday March 20th from 7p-9p at the 1880 Founders Room. The ESPN Radio After Party takes place Tuesday March 21st from 6p-8p at the Lab Gastropub. Both party locations are in walking distance of the USC Hotel and our conference venue.
As an added bonus, thanks to the generosity of our friends at WWE, we will be giving away a pair of tickets to the first night of WrestleMania, and a WWE title at our kickoff party. WrestleMania takes place this year in Los Angeles at Sofi Stadium on March 25-26. You must be present at the kickoff party to win either prize.
We’ll have more to share next week including providing an ongoing blog with session news and notes for our readers. We’ll also have a ton of content available on our social media channels so if you’re not following @BSMStaff on Twitter, @BarrettSportsMedia on Facebook or @BarrettMedia on LinkedIn, what are you waiting for?
The focus now shifts to finishing our creative for next week’s show, sending information to our speakers for their sessions, and finalizing our attendees list. For those who are attending, we’ll be sending out an email on Friday or Saturday with a complete list of names of who’s coming so you can plan meetings in advance.
If you forgot to buy your ticket after seeing months of promotion about the event and meant to do so, you can still do that, but it costs more. Students on the other hand can take advantage of a low rate established for college kids at https://bsmsummit.com/registration.
Putting this event together isn’t easy, but I’m extremely pleased with how it’s come together. We have a lot of smart, talented, and accomplished people making time to be part of this, and I appreciate each and every one of them for doing so. Now, it’s all about the execution. Hope to see you next week in LA.

Jason Barrett is the owner and operator of Barrett Sports Media. Prior to launching BSM he served as a sports radio programmer, launching brands such as 95.7 The Game in San Francisco and 101 ESPN in St. Louis. He has also produced national shows for ESPN Radio including GameNight and the Dan Patrick Show. You can find him on Twitter @SportsRadioPD or reach him by email at JBarrett@sportsradiopd.com.
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Sports Broadcasting Icon Al Michaels To Be Honored at the 2023 BSM Summit
“This is a man who has spent more than five decades on your television screen calling the biggest games, and producing some of the most iconic moments sports has to offer.”

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1 week agoon
March 10, 2023
If you work in the sports media industry you’ve likely heard someone along the way utter the phrase “don’t bury the lead“. I’m usually good about following that advice but I didn’t do that at our 2022 BSM Summit.
We introduced the greatest tandem in sports radio history, Mike Francesa and Chris ‘Mad Dog’ Russo and it was a special half hour. Mike and the Mad Dog were reunited after seven years apart and every individual at the event knew they were witnessing something magical on stage. I created a Mike and the Mad Dog Award for the event, which went to Felger and Mazz, who were the absolute right choice to win it. Even Chris remarked ‘that’s the right call‘.
But I learned quickly that although the intention was right in honoring the industry’s current top performing show, when you have legends in the room and they’re in their element, the last thing you want to do is overcrowd them. The connection Mike and Chris had on the air became the gold standard by which we measure successful sports talk shows, and they didn’t need an award created to deliver a special moment, just two mics and 20-30 minutes of stage time.
As I began thinking about the 2023 BSM Summit, I knew there was an opportunity to build on what we started last year with Mike and Chris, and after talking to a few people who I trust and respect, the decision of who we would recognize became crystal clear. I believe it’s important to honor the greats in our business because those who leave a permanent mark on our industry deserve it. The man we’ve selected has spent more than five decades on your television screen calling the biggest games, and producing some of the most iconic moments sports has to offer. He’s worked with the best of the best inside the booth, has helped elevate the presentation and execution of in-game content for ABC, NBC and Amazon, and his call of the Miracle on Ice, the US Olympic hockey team’s 1980 gold medal win over Russia remains one of the best calls in the history of sports.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I am honored and privileged to share that Al Michaels will join us on Wednesday March 22nd at the 2023 BSM Summit for our awards presentation, where we will present him with BSM’s Lifetime Achievement Award.
Michaels is one of America’s most respected sports broadcasting voices, known for his exceptional work on Monday Night Football (1986-2005), Sunday Night Football (2006-2022) and Thursday Night Football (2022-Present). He’s called the Super Bowl, World Series, NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Finals, Hagler-Hearns, the Olympics, the Indy 500, Horse Racing’s Triple Crown races, College Football and Basketball games, Golf, and more. He’s even held roles as the voice of the University of Hawaii, the Cincinnati Reds, and the San Francisco Giants, and was in the booth in 1989 when an earthquake rocked the Bay Area during Game 3 of the A’s-Giants world series.
The Brooklyn native turned Los Angeles resident has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and owns a ton of hardware including five sports Emmy’s, three NSMA Sportscaster of the Year honors, the 2013 Pete Rozelle Radio & Television Award distributed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and the 2021 Ford C. Frick Award given out by the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. Though his trophy case may be full, we’re excited to add another to his collection to show our appreciation and respect for the impact he’s made on the sports media business.
A quick reminder, the BSM Summit takes place on Tuesday March 21st and Wednesday March 22nd at the Founders Club at the University of Southern California. Tickets are on-sale at BSMSummit.com.
Be advised, we have started adding sessions and times on the website. As always, the schedule is subject to change. Our final agenda will be posted by the end of next week. In addition, attendees will receive an email by next Friday with details of who will be in attendance. We hope to see you there.

Jason Barrett is the owner and operator of Barrett Sports Media. Prior to launching BSM he served as a sports radio programmer, launching brands such as 95.7 The Game in San Francisco and 101 ESPN in St. Louis. He has also produced national shows for ESPN Radio including GameNight and the Dan Patrick Show. You can find him on Twitter @SportsRadioPD or reach him by email at JBarrett@sportsradiopd.com.
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Rob Parker, Brian Long, Sean Thompson and Matt Fishman Join The BSM Summit Speaker Lineup
“I’m excited to welcome a few folks who have enjoyed success in different parts of the country, and in different areas of the business.”

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2 weeks agoon
March 3, 2023
As we gear up for our 5th annual BSM Summit on March 21-22, 2023, I’m starting to get a better feel for how the final puzzle may look. When this process starts I have no idea how it’s going to turn out because so much depends on who says yes and no. Many who’ve attended over the years have complimented our lineups, and I appreciate it because I put a lot of time and effort into featuring a strong mix of professionals from different areas of the industry. Though I’m proud of the work we do and the schedule we deliver, there are so many things pursued leading up to the event that I can’t help but wonder ‘what if this or that had worked out?’
One thing that some folks don’t understand if they haven’t been to the show before is that this is not a talent conference. It’s a sports media business conference. That means we feature radio, TV and digital executives, programmers, researchers, sales professionals, and yes, talent. I believe on-air performers are vital to the industry’s success and I want the best of the best sharing their wisdom with everyone in the room, but we’re also not going to do two full days of on-air conversations. Being successful in sports media requires understanding the on-air side and the business side, and we do our best to offer a blend of both.
For today’s announcement, I’m excited to welcome a few sports media pros who have enjoyed success in different parts of the country, and in different areas of the business.
First, Rob Parker is someone who has made a name for himself as a radio host, writer, TV commentator, and teacher. He’s currently heard weeknights on FOX Sports Radio, teaches students at USC Annenberg, writes for Deadspin, and is helping MLBBro gain awareness and a bigger mainstream media presence covering Major League Baseball. He’s experienced, smart, and never short on opinion. I’m looking forward to having him join Mitch Rosen of 670 The Score/BetQL, and Scott Shapiro of FOX Sports Radio for a session titled “Aircheck On Campus“. They’ll take the stage together on Wednesday March 22nd from 2:10-2:45.
My next three speakers, all come from the sports radio programming department.
Matt Fishman is the Director of Content for ESPN 850 Cleveland. Fishman has been with the brand since January 2020 following stints at SiriusXM, 610 Sports in Kansas City, and 670 The Score in Chicago. He even wrote for BSM for a few years.
Sean Thompson is responsible for programming decisions at Arizona Sports and ESPN 620 AM. He joined the well respected Phoenix brand after more than a decade in Atlanta at 92.9 The Game. Sean has also worked in affiliate relations for Westwood One, and on the air and as a programmer in music radio for Good Karma Brands in Madison, WI.
Brian Long is the program director of both San Diego Sports 760 and KOGO 600 in San Diego. In addition to guiding two of the top talk brands in his market, he has also managed Seattle Sports 710, and served as the Assistant Program Director for ESPN LA 710.
Matt, Sean, and Brian will be part of one of our final sessions on day two of the Summit. The Last Call which yours truly is hosting, will explore unique revenue opportunities created by local brands, and examine a few new ideas and missed opportunities that brands and managers may want to take advantage of in the future.
As of today, the Summit has more than forty accomplished professionals taking the stage at the Founders Club at USC’s Galen Center on March 21-22, 2023. I’ve got a few others still to announce as well, including a few cool giveaways planned for the WWE’s Kickoff party.
If you haven’t bought a ticket and wish to be in the room, visit BSMSummit.com. The last day for ticket sales will be Monday March 13th. I’m hoping to release our final schedule of sessions on Tuesday March 14th. Hopefully I’ll see you in the city of angels.

Jason Barrett is the owner and operator of Barrett Sports Media. Prior to launching BSM he served as a sports radio programmer, launching brands such as 95.7 The Game in San Francisco and 101 ESPN in St. Louis. He has also produced national shows for ESPN Radio including GameNight and the Dan Patrick Show. You can find him on Twitter @SportsRadioPD or reach him by email at JBarrett@sportsradiopd.com.
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