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Audra Martin Continues To Be Shaped By Words From Steve Harvey

“He goes, ‘Exactly, and I will never be somebody’s Plan B. I’ll give you a year but if you’re here next season, I’ll fire you.’”

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“Survey says”. Those are the familiar words heard on the hit syndicated game show Family Feud. Audra Martin was responsible for coordinating the survey answers and filling in the audience working in television production as an audience coordinator at the show.

What viewers at home do not see is what goes on during the commercial breaks when host Steve Harvey takes questions from the studio audience. During one taping, he was asked about what advice he would give aspiring industry professionals, and the answer he gave genuinely changed the course of Martin’s career.

“Steve said, ‘A lot of people think it’s a good idea to have Plan B. That, ‘Hey, I have something to fall back on if my dream doesn’t happen’,” Martin recalled. “He said, ‘In my opinion, that’s the worst thing you can do because you’re subconsciously telling yourself [that] it’s okay to settle for something less than your dream.’ And I’m listening to this backstage and I’m just like, ‘Oh no, I feel like he’s directly talking to me.’”

From the moment she was young, Audra Martin always had a penchant for sports, specifically baseball and hockey. Growing up in the Chicago area, she was an ardent fan of the Cubs, tuning in to most of their games throughout the season. When she was in high school, she played softball, volleyball, and was a member of the cheerleading team.

Additionally, she cultivated her skills in music at a young age, learning to play the violin when she was 3 and beginning to sing at 12 years old. Nonetheless, her goal always extended beyond direct performance in music or sports, instead seeking to be in front of the camera as a liaison between fans and their favorite teams.

“I’ve been a big competitor, but my favorite part about [sports broadcasting] is telling the stories outside of what you see on the field,” Martin said. “Don’t get me wrong – I love doing highlights and talking about all the action, but there’s nothing better than being able to tell the story about an athlete or something going on behind the scenes that fans wouldn’t normally get the opportunity to hear about.”

While covering baseball and hockey as a sports broadcaster was always her dream job, she was unsure just how realistic it was. When she was young, she saw some women reporters penetrating boundaries including Pam Oliver and Michele Tafoya but it seemed more like an anomaly rather than being normal. As she got older, more women began to break into the industry, but she instead decided to major in criminal justice upon her enrollment at the University of Central Florida in Orlando, Fla.

She finished her freshman year in college with a 4.0 GPA and shortly thereafter received a letter from the dean’s office featuring restrictive majors, meaning that students had to meet certain qualifications to apply for them. Once she saw radio and television on the list, she decided to apply for it since it represented something of interest in her, deciding to focus on the craft she had been drawn to from a young age.

“When I got into the journalism program, a lot of my focus was on local news,” Martin said. “I had an internship with the local Fox affiliate. Honestly, I was competing against a lot of the guys in our class to do all the sports stories and anchor our sports broadcasts. It was a little difficult and I felt intimidated by it.”

Unlike many industry professionals, Martin did not immediately begin seriously pursuing a career as a reporter after her graduation. She did have the opportunity to report on games and compile feature stories for the NHL’s Atlanta Thrashers for Fox Sports South; however, that was just on a fill-in basis. Sports broadcasting was always in the back of her mind as she worked in the front office for MLB’s Atlanta Braves, connecting with then-field reporter for New York Mets baseball on SNY and now lead play-by-play announcer for Fox Sports’ NFL coverage, Kevin Burkhardt.

“I ended up meeting Kevin and told him [of] my desire to do his job one day and he allowed me to shadow him the next time the Mets and the Braves were playing,” Martin said. “We kept in touch and he always has just kind of been the go-to person, plus I think he did a great job when he was a sideline reporter for the Mets.”

Her foray into sports broadcasting did not occur until after she went home from that taping of Family Feud and immediately wrote Harvey a letter discussing the impact his words had on her.

The next day, Martin gave the letter to Harvey’s manager who passed it along to him. Moments later, she found herself being called backstage to meet with Harvey, presumably about the note regarding what he had said the day before.

“I go backstage and I’m waiting outside Steve’s dressing room and he comes out and he has the letter and he asked me, ‘So what is it that you want to do?,’” Martin recalled. “I said, ‘I want to be a sports broadcaster.’ He was like, ‘Wow, okay. Why do you work here?’”

Once Harvey posed that question, Martin waxed poetic about how she was enamored with working at Family Feud and helping in the coordination of the show. Yet that was not the question Harvey asked her; instead, she inherently avoided directly answering his question, something the longtime comedian and game show host immediately picked up on. Again, he posed the question to her regarding why she was working at Family Feud.

“And I said, ‘I guess because you’re my Plan B,’” Martin told Harvey. “He goes, ‘Exactly, and I will never be somebody’s Plan B. I’ll give you a year but if you’re here next season, I’ll fire you.’”

Harvey had given Martin the necessary motivation and a vote of confidence to pursue her dream to become a sports broadcaster and that night, she immediately updated her résumé and went on to apply to every open television job in the country. She ended up hearing back from WAAY-TV, a news station in Huntsville, Alabama looking for someone to cover sports in the area as a reporter and also anchor studio coverage.

Once she accepted the job, she officially gave Harvey notice that she would not be returning next season to begin building her career in sports media.

Moving from a metropolitan area to a small market was an immense transition for Martin; after all, she had always been used to the environment of cities and only knew one person living in the area. The benefits to working in a small market though were that she had the flexibility to make mistakes and gain the repetitions essential for advancement in this competitive industry. She began in September in the midst of prime football season both at the high school and college levels but quickly faced significant adversity.

“My sports director actually ended up leaving a couple weeks after I started so I became a one-person sports department for months,” Martin said. “I think there was a stretch where I worked 40-something days straight because this is what you had to do, especially in Alabama…. It was exhausting and very challenging but I look back on it now and it was the best learning experience.”

One year later, Martin found an opening to return to a city – Nashville – to work at another news network, WKRN-TV, as a sports anchor and reporter. The sports department in Nashville, unlike Huntsville’s, had four people and more resources to efficiently and effectively tell stories.

Additionally, the city has two professional teams – the Nashville Predators and Tennessee Titans – along with college sports at Vanderbilt University and the University of Tennessee. Nonetheless, working in local news was never Martin’s true “Plan A” and while she loved her job and colleagues in Nashville, looked for opportunities for career advancement.

“I knew when I got into the business that my ultimate goal was to work at a regional sports network,” Martin said. “There’s always been something about being part of a community and feeling like you’re part of the fanbase…. That just always had such appeal to me and it was always my dream.”

When working in Nashville, Martin received a phone call from her agent about an opening to host On The Fly at NHL Network, a highlights show recapping the day’s action in the National Hockey League. The chance to audition for the role coincided with her negotiation of a new contract, and following much deliberation, Martin decided to bet on herself by opting not to renew her deal in “The Music City.”

“I knew it was a big risk, but I felt like it was a risk I had to take,” Martin said. “Ultimately, I didn’t end up getting the job and I was devastated because now my future was so in flux.”

The job had been given to Jamie Hersch, who was previously reporting on baseball and hosting hockey coverage on Fox Sports North, now Bally Sports North. Hersch was beloved by fans in the Minneapolis-St. Paul metropolitan area and she now needed to be replaced since she would be moving to work at NHL Network. Martin was apprehensive about her future but had the realization of Hersch’s job opening and was recommended by those at NHL Network to be considered for an audition.

A few days later, Martin auditioned and subsequently landed the job and after one day of shadowing veteran play-by-play announcer Tom Hanneman at a game, began fulfilling her dream job covering both baseball and hockey.

“My roles are different; that’s why I love my job so much because I get to host in the winter and then switch over to sideline reporting in the summer,” Martin said. “Both have the opportunity to be really in-touch with the fanbase. You feel invested; you can’t help but feel invested with the team. When they’re doing well, it’s fun to be a part of it; it’s fun to cover it every single day; it’s fun to be able to tell those stories and call those highlights.”

The immediate issue for Martin was two-fold in that the Twins posted a 103-loss season in her first season covering the team and that she put immense pressure on herself to replicate the hosting style of Hersch in an effort to be accepted and embraced by fans in the area. As a result, she struggled to find her own style and enjoy working in her “dream job.” Three years in, she had a realization that she needed to change her approach and recognize how fortunate she was to have landed in a major market working in sports media.

“Once I started showing my personality and once I got that confidence to just be who I am and do the show my way and have fun with it, I think things really started turning around,” Martin said. “That’s been my mantra I guess over the last few years – just to have fun with it.”

Although the Twins missed the playoffs this past season, Martin looks back on working more than 100 baseball games for the first time because Marney Gellner, the reporter with whom she split sideline reporting duties, was calling games for the WNBA’s Minnesota Lynx. In spite of working more though, Martin feels she was able to keep up with the team and tell stories that would typically go unnoticed by those outside of the clubhouse.

“It was a bigger commitment this year which was great because I never felt like I was having to catch up,” Martin said. “I was around the team so much that even if I had a few days off, it was only a couple of days off at a time and I never felt like I missed a huge chunk. I really got to get in a good rhythm; I got to know the players well. This season was tough at the end but in the beginning, there was a lot of great baseball and a lot of fun stories to tell.”

As the summer months begin to dwindle away with plummeting temperatures and the appearance of snow on local weather forecasts, Martin transitions to hosting Wild Live, the studio coverage for Minnesota Wild hockey live game broadcasts. She recognizes the difference between hosting and sideline reporting, specifically the differences each role presents in how to tell stories.

“[With] hosting, I know it’s not my job to tell the stories,” she said. “I’m not the analyst. It’s my job to set up the analysts. I try to make sure whether I’m asking them a legitimate question or if I’m just setting them up for a conversation to begin, I try to make sure it’s not the same thing every day.”

The future of studio coverage is somewhat in flux as emerging technologies and changes in consumption patterns have given fans more control than ever before over their viewing and listening experiences. Local pregame and postgame coverage is evolving with the changing media landscape as it fights to remain a mainstay in sports media and avoid extinction, finding new ways to appeal to younger demographics and viewers at large.

“To me as a fan – and this was even before I got into hosting and even before I was in television – I liked watching the pre and postgame shows because it is centered [around] the team that I am rooting for or watching,” Martin expressed.

“It’s everything that I need to know in one condensed 30-minute format and I’m not necessarily having to listen to information about games that are being played on the other side of the country that I’m not really invested in.”

As her career continues to advance, Martin aims to stay in Minneapolis-St. Paul working in sports media and will work to continue establishing her own identity.. She does not rule out one day working with a national network but genuinely feels a sense of elation and pride towards what she is doing now and is remaining focused on finding new ways to tell stories and hone her craft.

“This industry is changing every single day and there’s going to be something new that might not make sense at the time or takes a while to get used to – but we can only get better if we embrace the new resources [and] embrace new technology,” Martin said. “….Be open-minded and don’t be afraid to try something new. It might not work perfectly every time but sometimes the best ideas are when you just think outside the box and you take a chance.”

The impact of advice and others’ belief in one’s ability to succeed in sports media or another competitive industry can be paramount in fostering a successful career. Martin recognizes how Steve Harvey changed her life in one afternoon and returned to Family Feud after she had been featured in a magazine that did a story about the women’s Final Four and how she was, at the time, the only woman sports reporter in Nashville.

With a copy of the magazine in hand, Martin found Harvey’s manager – and what happened next was memorable and a full-circle moment.

“Steve brought me backstage and he came out and he had tears in his eyes,” Martin said. “He made me sign the magazine and he kept the magazine. I don’t know what it was about needing to hear that from Steve but I just needed that kick in the butt I guess.”

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Colorado Hiring Deion Sanders Will Be Constant Gift for College Football Media

“If Coach Prime achieves the same sort of success that he did with the Tigers, he will be far more than a curiosity. Sanders will be a disruptor.”

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Deion Sanders quickly made it clear why the University of Colorado chose him to be its next head football coach.

Coming off a weekend in which the four College Football Playoff teams were announced and all of the other bowl-eligible teams accepted their invitations, Colorado — which went 1-11 this past season — made news for hiring Sanders, the former NFL star who was phenomenally successful at Jackson State.

The media that covers college football and sports as a whole should be thrilled that the Buffaloes program decided to take a big leap for attention and notoriety. Sanders is a bold, risky hire. But he’s also been successful in virtually every venture he’s taken. “Primetime” had a Hall of Fame NFL career and also played Major League Baseball. And he’s a master at drawing attention to himself.

During his first meeting with his new team, Sanders made sure to mention that he has Louis Vuitton luggage to make the point that some of his Jackson State players are coming with him to Boulder — including his son, quarterback Shadeur Sanders. Nick Saban and Kirby Smart probably don’t cite luxury fashion when explaining to their players that they’ll have to compete for starting positions.

Coach Prime will not be boring to cover. (That self-appointed “Coach Prime” title, which was on his name plate at his introductory press conference, is a big clue there.) He never has been. This is a man who said during the 1989 NFL Draft, after being selected No. 5 overall by the Atlanta Falcons, that if the Detroit Lions had selected him at No. 3, he “would’ve asked for so much money, they’d have had to put me on layaway.”

Even if he doesn’t win as much as Colorado hopes, Sanders will pursue top talent — players who want to perform on a larger stage than the FCS-level Jackson State allows — and impact athletes will be attracted to him. He got the No. 1 recruit in the nation, cornerback and wide receiver Travis Hunter, to play for him. (Hunter is following his coach to Boulder.) Now that Sanders is at an FBS school in a Power 5 conference, more stars will surely come.

But if Coach Prime achieves the same sort of success that he did with the Tigers — going 27-5 in three seasons, including a 12-0 campaign in 2022 — he will be far more than a curiosity. Sanders will be a disruptor. And he’ll get the attention that such figures typically draw from media and fans. According to the Denver Post‘s Sean Keeler, at least 400 people attended what felt more like a celebration than a press conference.

Coach Prime wasn’t going to just win the press conference, which is what any school and fanbase want when a new coach is introduced.

If Colorado wanted someone to sit at a podium, and give platitudes like “We want to win the Pac-12 and get to the College Football Playoff,” “We’re going to build a program with young men you’ll be proud of,” or “It’s time to restore Colorado to the football glory we remember,” Sanders isn’t the guy for that.

“Do I look like a man that worries about anything? Did you see the way I walked in here? Did you see the swagger that was with me?” Sanders said during his introductory presser. “Worry? Baby, I am too blessed to be stressed. I have never been one for peer pressure. I put pressure on peers. I never wanted to worry, I make people worry. I don’t get down like that. I am too darn confident. That is my natural odor.”

To no surprise, Sanders announced his presence in Boulder with authority. He had cameras following him as he met with Colorado players for the first time. How many other coaches would have recorded what many would see as a private moment for posterity and post it online?

Sanders caused a stir by putting his players on notice. He warned them he was coming, telling them they’ll be pushed so hard they might quit. He told them to enter the transfer portal and go someplace else if they don’t like what he and his staff are going to do.

That candor, that brutal honesty surprised many fans and media when they saw it Monday morning. For some, that message might have felt too familiar. How many in media — or many other industries — have worried about their job status when a new boss takes over? What may have seemed secure days earlier is now uncertain.

But how do we know other coaches haven’t said something similar when taking over at a new job and addressing their team? We just hadn’t seen it before. But Sanders has been in the media. He knows social media. He understands controlling his own message and telling his story.

Sanders also knows what kind of value he brings to any venture he takes on. How many people would have left an NFL Network gig for Barstool Sports? But Sanders went to where his star would shine, where he was the main show, where he could be Deion Sanders. Maybe he’ll have to turn that down just a bit at Colorado. But athletic director Rick George knows who he hired.

Colorado could have made a safer choice, including previous head coaches Tom Herman, Bronco Mendenhall, or Gary Patterson. A top assistant from one of this year’s Playoff contenders — such as Georgia’s Todd Monken, USC’s Alex Grinch, Alabama’s Bill O’Brien, or Michigan’s Sherrone Moore — could also have been an option.

But what fun would that have been? What kind of tremor would Colorado have created in the college football news cycle? How much attention would a more conventional hire have received? Yes, Sanders has to recruit and win. However, if the objective was to make Colorado football a talking point again, that’s been accomplished.

There could be some friction too. Sanders has already been criticized for being a champion of HBCUs, only to bolt for a mainstream Power 5 program when the opportunity opened. (To be fair, other columnists have defended the move.)

At Jackson State, Sanders tried to control local media when he didn’t like how reporters were addressing him or covering a story. Last year during Southwestern Athletic Conference Media Day, he balked at a Clarion-Ledger reporter addressing him as “Deion,” not “Coach,” insisting that Nick Saban would’ve been shown that respect. Earlier this season, Sanders admonished a school broadcaster (and assistant athletic director) for speaking to him more formally on camera than he did off-camera.

Will that fly among Boulder and Denver media, or the national college football press? It’s difficult to imagine. Maybe Sanders will ease back on his efforts to control reporters within a larger university environment, metropolitan area, and media market. But we’re also talking about Deion Sanders here. He doesn’t bend to outside forces. He makes them bend to him.

Sanders’ stint in Boulder — whether it lasts the five years of his contract and beyond, or less than that — will not be dull. There could be no better gift for the media covering Colorado football. Or college football, a sport already full of bold personalities, eccentric to unhinged fanbases, and outsized expectations. Coach Prime will fit right in.

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The Media Is Finally Strong Enough To Take On The Rose Bowl

“The whole Rose Bowl organization is stuck in a black and white TV world. The future playoff is Marty McFly stepping out of a Delorean and the Rose Bowl is the Enchantment Under the Seas Dance.”

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I am a sucker for packaging. Take me to a grocery store and show me a uniquely packaged sauce or condiment or waffle syrup and I’ll give it a try just based on bottle size or design. The one packaging ploy that has vexed me is the “biggie size” at the local drive through. I’m always interested in the largest drink possible but don’t necessarily want a grain silo full of fries passed through my window. The College Football Playoff is going “biggie sized” in 2024 and I’ll take all of that I can get.

The College Football Playoff Committee made official last week what had long been speculated, that the four-team playoff field would increase to 12 teams starting with the 2024 season. This was an inevitable move for money and access reasons. The power conferences and Notre Dame stand to gain significantly in TV revenue and the “non-power” conferences finally get the consistent access they have long craved.

What may have finally pushed the new playoff over the finish line was the end of an ultimate game of chicken between college football powers and the Rose Bowl.

There is a scene from the movie The Hunt for Red October when the rogue Russian nuclear submarine is trying to avoid a torpedo from another Russian submarine. The American captain, aptly played by Scott Glenn, tells Jack Ryan; “The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.”

The Rose Bowl finally flinched.

The only thing that delayed an earlier move to this new world was the insistence of the Rose Bowl Game to cling to the bygone era of the antiquated bowl system. Only in college football could an organization that runs a parade hold such outsized influence but, until recently, the Big Ten and PAC 12 gladly enabled their addiction to a specific television time slot.

Dan Wetzel is a Yahoo! Sports National Columnist, he also wrote the book Death to the BCS which laid out a very early argument for dumping the bowl system for a Playoff.

“The single hardest thing to explain to people is that the Rose Bowl and its obsession of having the sunset in the third quarter of its game was a serious impediment to a billion dollar playoff,” Wetzel wrote. 

Wetzel makes the point that simply moving the game up one hour would’ve helped the playoff TV schedule immensely, “They were adamant that they get to have an exclusive window on New Year’s Day, the best time of all, not only would they not give that up but they wouldn’t even move it an hour earlier (to help Playoff television scheduling) because then the sun would set at halftime.  It was so absurd but for a lot of years they got so much protection.”

We may never know what it was that finally forced the Rose Bowl to play ball with the rest of the college football world. There are many possibilities, not the least of which was the presence of SoFi Stadium just down the road. The College Football Playoff committee could have always taken the bold step of scheduling games at SoFi, in the Los Angeles market, opposite the Rose Bowl TV window to try to squeeze them out.

It is also possible the Rose Bowl scanned the landscape and realized that, if a 12-team playoff already existed, their 2023 game would’ve been Washington (10-2) versus Purdue (8-5). That shock of reality came with the understanding Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Utah and USC would enthusiastically choose a 12 team playoff bid over a Rose Bowl invite. That was the future the Rose Bowl faced with the departure of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten and the 12 team playoff gobbling up the top remaining PAC 12 teams.

I have proposed that theory to many people in the college football world and have received some version of this response from many of them: “They really wouldn’t care who is playing as long as they can still have their parade.”

That is one of the issues at play here; in many ways, the whole Rose Bowl organization is stuck in a black and white TV world. The future playoff is Marty McFly stepping out of a Delorean and the Rose Bowl is the Enchantment Under the Seas Dance.

One other possibility is that the television executives of the major networks, primarily FOX, may have put the pressure on the Big Ten and Pac 12 to have a little less interest in keeping college football stuck in the late 1970’s. It makes sense, FOX has nothing to gain by the Rose Bowl keeping influence. Fox may have everything to gain by getting a media rights cut of the future playoff. Many believe FOX was a driving force behind USC and UCLA bolting to the Big Ten. If that much is true, pressing for less Rose Bowl influence is child’s play.

No matter what was the catalyst to the expanded playoff, it worked and the fans benefited. College football is moving into a brave new world all because the college football powers finally stood up to the old man yelling at the clouds.

Turns out, it was all a game of chicken. And the Rose Bowl flinched.

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Andrew Perloff Learned From The Master of Sports Radio on Television

“I think I’m really lucky because I went from a really fun and supportive place in the Dan Patrick Show and have now transitioned into what I would also call a very fun and supportive place at CBS Sports Radio/Audacy.”

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It’s a fact of life that not everybody loves their job. To have a job that you love and have fun at is pretty special. For Andrew Perloff, life is good.

“I’m just watching so much sports during the week,” said Perloff. “I don’t come up for air watching sports and I love that.  And the fact that we get paid to sit on the couch for 72 hours…oh my God…it really is the best job in the world.”

That job is being the co-host of Maggie & Perloff weekdays from 3pm to 6pm eastern time on CBS Sports Radio and simulcast on CBS Sports Network. Perloff was an on-air personality on The Dan Patrick Show beginning in 2009 before making the switch to CBS Sports Radio for the new show with Maggie Gray that launched this past January.

And so far, the move has worked out.

“I’m really happy,” said Perloff. “I think I’m really lucky because I went from a really fun and supportive place in the Dan Patrick Show and have now transitioned into what I would also call a very fun and supportive place at CBS Sports Radio/Audacy. I miss the DP Show but I love my new co-workers. (Vice President of Programming) Spike Eskin and (New York Market President) Chris Oliviero have been great. We get a lot of support and a lot of help from those guys and they’ve made the transition so much easier.”

When a new radio program begins, chemistry between the hosts is vital to the success of the growth and success of the show. In the case of Maggie & Perloff, they had an existing friendship from their time working together at Sports Illustrated. 

And that relationship is certainly evident to the listeners.

“I’m having a great time with Maggie,” said Perloff who was an editor and contributing writer at Sports Illustrated and “We knew each other pretty well at Sports Illustrated. We’ve been friends for a while now. I have gotten to know her a lot better through the show. It took a couple of months to really find our rhythm and get the show to where we wanted to get it.”

There has been a fun and evolving dynamic to the on and off-air chemistry between the hosts.  Perloff is from Philadelphia and a die-hard Eagles fan while Gray is a fan of the Buffalo Bills.  The Eagles have the best record in the NFC at 11-1 while the Bills are among the best teams in the AFC at 9-3.

Perloff has come to understand just how much Gray loves the Bills and there is a chance that their two teams could meet come February 12th in Arizona for Super Bowl LVII.

“She’s a very passionate Buffalo Bills fan,” said Perloff.  “I always knew that, but to actually sit there on a daily basis and see her sweat out every detail about the Buffalo Bills has been a lot of fun.  We’re keeping our fingers crossed that we’re on a collision course for the Super Bowl and we’re already trying to figure out a Super Bowl bet.”

The easy wager to set up would involve food.

If the Bills win, Perloff would have to give Gray some Philly cheesesteaks.

If the Eagles win, Gray would have to furnish Perloff with some Buffalo Wings.

But it appears as if management wants there to be more at stake for the potential bet.

“Our boss wants us to do something more severe,” said Perloff. “The truth is I’m an Eagles fan so I’ve already won my Super Bowl. Maggie, on the other hand, has no idea what that feels like. I almost feel sorry for her because it’s tough being a Bills fan.

“We have a pretty big rivalry with our team because she’s a Mets fan and I’m a Phillies fan. We get along great expect for those areas.”

The Maggie & Perloff chemistry extends throughout the show and that includes producer Michael Samtur who has his own rooting interests.

Samtur is a fan of the New York Jets who are having a better-than-expected season.

“When the Jets win, I don’t want to see Mike on Monday mornings because he’s smiling so much,” said Perloff. “He’s an unbelievably cynical Jets fan…it’s hysterically funny.

“Mike is doing a great job. It’s really an all-hands-on deck show. I think we all sort of kind of wear each other’s hats at certain times.”

An added element to the show is that it is also simulcast on CBS Sports Network. If there’s one thing that Perloff learned from working with Dan Patrick — who also has a simulcast on television — is that the program is a radio show that just happens to have cameras in the studio. At the end of the day, it’s a radio show on television and not a television show on the radio.

“That’s also my philosophy,” said Perloff. “From a logistical standpoint, to do a good radio show you can’t really focus on the TV side of it. For us, the foundation of the base is to really focus on the radio show and the TV and video comes naturally after that.”

Perloff’s resume also includes writing and co-writing an assortment of magazine stories, books, and television shows while also hosting his own weekend show on NBC Sports Radio from 2016 to 2019. But it was working on The Dan Patrick Show where he learned an important aspect of being a talk show host that he continues to live by at CBS Sports Radio.

What he learned was that you just have to be yourself.

“Dan always wanted us to be authentic in the sense that don’t try to be someone you’re not,” said Perloff. “Don’t try to come up with hot takes just for the sake of hot takes. When you listen to Dan Patrick on the radio, you’re really hearing Dan. He’s not a radically different person off air.”

This is a huge time of the year for sports radio. 

The NFL’s regular season is winding down and college football is heading towards bowl season and the College Football Playoff. Throw in the NBA, college basketball, NHL, and the World Cup and there’s so much going on in the sports world to talk about. 

Perloff can’t get enough of it.

“I love it so much,” said Perloff. “College football is just huge right now. When we bring up a college football story, the phone lines just light up which I think is a reflection of the growing interest in that sport. This is the best time of the year. It’s incredible.”

As Maggie & Perloff head towards their first anniversary on the air, there are goals and expectations heading into 2023. The show has grown tremendously over the course of the first year and while that may have occurred faster than expected, the hope is that the trend continues.

“I’ve been a little surprised by how fast the audience has grown and our connection with the audience,” said Perloff. “One of the great things about The Dan Patrick Show was the community feel with the show and all of the listeners. That’s definitely growing with us and I’d like to see that really take off next year. It makes it so much more fun when you’re doing the show and everybody is along for the ride.”

It’s been a great ride so far and it should be interesting to see what happens if that ride includes an Andrew Perloff vs Maggie Gray Super Bowl matchup in February. It’s not even because the breakdown of Eagles vs Bills would be fascinating but the audience wants more.

That Super Bowl bet would certainly be intriguing.   

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