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Rob Thun on RSN Demise: Broadcast TV is Not the ‘Silver Bullet’

“We’re hitting a point where, ‘Do the broadcast channels make sense?'”

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As the regional sports network (RSN) model faces inherent change, there are questions about how fans will be able to access live and local sports content. In today’s marketplace, there are several RSNs that are owned by independent companies – most notably those from Diamond Sports Group. The company is currently within an exclusivity period to try and restructure its more than $8 billion in debt to emerge from Ch. 11 bankruptcy. As these proceedings continue to linger, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association and National Hockey League are trying to remain prepared in the scenario that the company ultimately fails to come to a resolution with its creditors. 

There are also several regional sports networks owned by the teams themselves, including YES Network, Altitude Sports Network, NESN and Monumental Sports Network among others. Even so, DIRECTV Chief Content Officer Rob Thun feels that there is a sense of uneasiness among teams utilizing traditional RSNs to distribute their games as it pertains to future carriage.

“I think all of them are nervous that, ‘What happens if our deal is up, and if the RSN business is taking a drastically different course, are pay TV providers going to want to plug those RSNs into their programming lineups?,’” Thun said during an appearance on The Marchand and Ourand Sports Media Podcast this week. “DIRECTV obviously has a long history of being a leader in sports programming, and we don’t intend to deviate from that, but there are going to be exceptions as broadcasters step into the fray and try to opportunistically take these rights where we have technical limitations.”

In being a satellite television service, DIRECTV does not have unlimited bandwidth and is thus not able to carry every digital multicast. The satellites simply do not allow for these capabilities, part of the advantages inherent with internet TV, a space in which the company also has involvement.

“There are going to be some changes to the whole marketplace,” Thun said, “and we’re as anxious as everybody else to see how these play out because they plug into our overall strategy of leading in sports.”

Essentially, the company could be moving from an instance where it had been paying several regional sports networks because of the breadth of sports rights to having to pay retransmission consent fees to local broadcast channels picking up those rights. The Vegas Golden Knights and Arizona Coyotes recently inked deals with Scripps Sports to be broadcast on over-the-air television, while the Phoenix Suns and Phoenix Mercury are working with Gray Television and also have a direct-to-consumer solution.

The Utah Jazz made the return to over-the-air television and recently reached distribution deals that will reach 3 million additional fans in the region, expanding the presence of their games and reach of potential fandom. Even so, Thun does not feel the broadcast model will be a panacea or “silver bullet” for answers in coming to a solution.

“Why we even got here with Diamond Sports and RSNs in general is because the model is broken,” Thun said. “The rights just kept going up and up and up, and the actual viewership or the demand for these local sports – while there are some that engage very heavily in watching their local team, the lion’s share of people do not watch RSNs, at least on our dial, and I think it’s fairly common across all the other distributors. It’s the same concern that the prices didn’t match the viewership, and so we are overpaying for these rights and they need to be re-rationalized.”

Dish TV moved out of the regional sports network when it dropped the FOX Sports-branded group of networks in 2019, which started a three-year process of ultimately removing all such channels from its service. Brian Neylon, the group president of the outlet, called the model “fundamentally broken” and did not foresee the company entering the business again.

“I think we’re going to see a replay of this down the road because the broadcast stations are also too expensive, and they’ve been asking for crazy increases over the years,” Thun said. “We’re hitting a point where, ‘Do the broadcast channels make sense?'”

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ESPN, PFL Agree to New Multi-Year Rights Deal

“We’ve had five successful seasons on ESPN and we’re excited for the next phase of growth for MMA and the Professional Fighters League with this agreement.”

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The new-look Professional Fighters League (PFL) won’t have to worry about its broadcast home. The combat sports league and ESPN recently agreed to a multi-year, multi-platform rights extension.

PFL’s new deal with ESPN includes live event distribution of the PFL regular season, playoffs, and world championships. ESPN+ PPV will also be home to PFL’s “Super Fight Division,” a new cross-discipline division that includes Francis Ngannou, Amanda Serrano, Clarissa Shields, Savannah Marshall, and Jake Paul, which was launched to “forge true economic partnerships with MMA’s top superstars to compete in global mega-events” according to PFL. The first PFL Super Fight PPV will take place sometime in early 2024.

“We’ve had five successful seasons on ESPN and we’re excited for the next phase of growth for MMA and the Professional Fighters League with this agreement,” said PFL CEO Peter Murray. “Our innovative sport-season format, elite roster of athletes, and the launch of the PFL PPV Super Fight Division, which will feature some of the world’s greatest combat sports stars such as Francis Ngannou and Jake Paul, are ushering in the new era of MMA as a mainstream global sports entertainment platform.”

This news comes hot off the heels of another PFL announcement — that the league acquired competitor Bellator from Paramount Global. The PFL roster now not only boasts top stars like Ngannou, Ante Delija, and Denis Goltsov, but also Bellator’s top stars like Ryan Bader, Cris Cyborg, Patricio Pitbull, and more.

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Scripps Sports Exec: Teams Are Making Contingency Deals For After Bally Sports Bankruptcy

Lawlor said that Scripps Sports “already has deals in place with at least a couple of teams as a contingency in case Bally halts broadcasts before the end of the 2024 season.”

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With the writing on the wall that Diamond Sports Group will drop its regional sports contracts after next year, entities like Scripps Sports are bracing for additional opportunities to work with various teams.

Scripps Sports president Brian Lawlor recently said teams and leagues are already thinking ahead.

“There’s a lot of contingency planning by teams and leagues to have distribution options if the creditors pull the rug out early,” Lawlor told Cincinnati Business Courier. “It’s really messy right now.”

Lawlor added that Scripps has already been involved in contingency planning with those leagues and teams, with talks having gone on for months in some instances.

“(Scripps) already has deals in place with at least a couple of teams as a contingency in case Bally halts broadcasts before the end of the 2024 season.

Scripps Sports already stepped in to help provide a new TV home for both the Vegas Golden Knights and the Arizona Coyotes. Lawlor said returns with those teams, particularly in Vegas, have been great.

“We’ve been blown away by the Golden Knights over-the-air ratings and the number of people who have subscribed to direct-to-consumer,” he said.

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Bob Iger: ESPN Could ‘Go It Alone’ and Not Take Financial Partners

“We are fully prepared to do that. It would be a little more challenging if we did.”

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As Disney continues to consider selling an ownership stake in ESPN, Disney CEO Bob Iger told employees he’s not ruling out the possibility of not bringing in new financial partners.

Front Office Sports reported Wednesday that Iger spoke at a Disney town hall on Tuesday and there’s no requirement in place that says Disney must seek out new investors to maintain ESPN’s financial future.

“We could go it alone,” he said. “We are fully prepared to do that. It would be a little more challenging if we did.”

Disney has already had some level of conversations with potential partners including pro sports leagues and big tech companies.

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