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John Ourand: Bally’s Problems Are Bally’s Problems, Not All RSNs’

“The implosion is not going to happen all at once. It’s just happening all at once for the biggest purveyor of regional sports networks in the country.”

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The end of regional sports networks is near, but the sky isn’t going to fall out immediately.

In an interview on Grant & Danny on 106.7 The Fan in D.C., Sports Business Journal’s John Ourand said the ongoing news with Diamond Sports Group – the owner of the Bally Sports RSNs – isn’t what all the other network proprietors are experiencing.

“The Bally Sports RSNs, that’s unique to Bally Sports,” Ourand said Friday. “That company – Diamond Sports – they have $8 billion in debt. Billion with a b. Warner Bros. Discovery, their RSNs, they couldn’t make any money off of it. They were in debt with those RSNs.”

Ourand pointed to others like YES Network, NESN and Marquee as RSNs that can turn a profit. He said ultimately the business model is crumbling because cable is hemorrhaging subscribers each year and the networks are losing money while rights fees to carry teams increases every season. But despite those glaring issues, some RSNs can make money still.

“They’re less profitable than they were a year ago and certainly a lot less profitable than they were five years ago,” Ourand said. “So you see where the trend line is going. The implosion is not going to happen all at once. It’s just happening all at once for the biggest purveyor of regional sports networks in the country.”

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Charles Barkley: Contract Opt-Out Ensures ‘I Can Get Out’ of TNT if it Loses NBA Rights

“I just signed a 10-year deal two years ago, but one of the things I did [is] I put an opt out after a couple of years because I wanted to make sure I covered my ass when it comes to this situation.”

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TNT Sports is the home of the heralded award-winning studio program, Inside the NBA, which features Ernie Johnson, Kenny “The Jet” Smith, Charles Barkley and Shaquille O’Neal. The show has been keeping audiences informed and entertained for years, frequently producing memorable moments through segments filled with revelry and debate.

As negotiations surrounding the future television media rights of the NBA continue though, reports have indicated that the league will return to The Walt Disney Company (ESPN/ABC) and also add a streaming partner in Amazon Prime Video. Indications have pointed to the league wanting to have three packages, and NBC is reportedly prepared to bid $2.5 billion for a slate of games to once again be in business with the league, as first reported by The Wall Street Journal. This would presumably leave Warner Bros. Discovery behind, which airs games on TNT, TBS and truTV while also having digital distribution through Max, Bleacher Report and House of Highlights.

Barkley, who has been with Warner Bros. Discovery since 2000 as a studio analyst, signed a new 10-year contract last year coinciding with his colleagues. Yet if the company was to lose rights in broadcasting games for the league, he has a clause in his contract that would make him a free agent and able to explore opportunities elsewhere. While appearing on The Really Big Show on ESPN 850 Cleveland, Barkley explained what he did in contract negotiations to safeguard against such a reality.

“I just signed a 10-year deal two years ago, but one of the things I did [is] I put an opt-out after a couple of years because I wanted to make sure I covered my ass when it comes to this situation – if I wanted to go to Amazon because we thought it was going to be Apple to be honest with you,” Barkley said. “So the one thing I did in my new contract – I’m two years into a 10-year deal, and when I [sat] down, I said, ‘Wait a minute now. If you guys lose the NBA, I want to make sure I can get out of here,’ so I am actually in a really great position.”

Barkley explained that he did not realize NBC was going to make a bid for the league and reiterated that he had the opt-out in his contract. He also stated that TNT has been great to him and that the provision was a business decision rather than being something personal. In fact, Barkley referenced the character Nino Brown from the movie “New Jack City” as he expressed that sentiment on the airwaves. Barkley is not worried about what is happening; instead, he is sitting back and waiting to see what happens next. Show co-host Tony Rizzo then asked him if he would be willing to leave for another network, to which he replied, “Hell yeah.”

“The most important thing for me was, ‘Okay, if y’all lose the NBA, I want to make sure I can walk away, no feelings’ because TNT, like I say, they’ve been great to me,” Barkley explained. “I love working at TNT, but listen, I always cover myself, and I made sure [of] that because we want back and forth – me and my agent and TNT.”

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Mel Kiper Jr. and Dari Nowkhah to End ESPN Radio Show

“Thank you to our loyal fans who have kept us going all these years. It’s been an amazing ride.”

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ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. announced today via his X account that he and Dari Nowkhah are ending their weekend ESPN Radio show. The Dari and Mel Show has aired for 14 years on Saturdays and will have one final broadcast this weekend .

“After 14 years of many interesting discussions/debates, Kiper’s Callers, fantastic guests, Mikey C’s antics, and so much fun, Dari and I are hanging up our headphones and saying goodbye to the Dari and Mel Show on ESPN Radio,” Kiper wrote. “Thank you to our loyal fans who have kept us going all these years. It’s been an amazing ride, especially getting to do it alongside my good friend, Dari Nowkhah. It’s not over yet though. Tune in this Saturday, May 4th, from 10am to 1:30pm EST on ESPN Radio for our final show.”

Nowkhah replied to Kiper’s post saying, “I second all the Mel Man said. Doing this show with an incredible friend and group of friends every Saturday for nearly 14 years has been unreal. I’m sad that it’s ending. But we will have a hell of a finale!”

Nowkhah has been with ESPN since 2004 while Kiper has been part of The Worldwide Leader since 1984.

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Bob Fescoe: ‘You Almost Have to Have Everything That’s Out There to Get Everything That You Want’

“Just go straight to streaming; just purchase what you want and legitimately pay for what you are going to be watching, and I think that’s probably how you have to look at it now.”

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Comcast subscribers around the United States woke up on Wednesday morning to discover that they no longer receive the Bally Sports-branded regional sports network through their cable packages. This occurred as a result of fruitless negotiations between Diamond Sports Group and Comcast in an attempt to reach a new carriage agreement. Both companies issued statements regarding the situation that resulted in the sports channels being removed from these subscription services. Nonetheless, the decision was a talking point that led off Wednesday morning’s edition of Fescoe in the Morning on 610 Sports Kansas City.

Show host Bob Fescoe, who has discussed Bally Sports and the situation surrounding Diamond Sports Group on several occasions, did not realize the program was beginning because he was caught up with the carriage agreement news. The putative impasse that is impeding both sides from reaching a deal has underscored the sentiment of consumers to cut the cord, which has taken place at record rates in the country over the last several years. The Leichtman Research Group recently estimated that major pay television providers lost approximately 5 million subscribers last year alone, which leads cable companies, other satellite/telecommunications services and vMVPDs to equate to about 71.3 million total subscribers.

“I go, ‘This is the problem with big cable right now,’” Fescoe emphasized after his co-host, Josh Klingler, asked if Diamond ultimately wanted Amazon to pick up all of its channels. “If it’s on Amazon, it’s your choice whether or not you want to watch this. With cable companies and satellite providers, you don’t get a say in their disputes; you don’t get a say in what you get [and] you don’t get a say in anything other than to pay money and more of it for what they may or may not be offering at this point in time.”

Although Fescoe is a DirecTV subscriber himself, a company with whom Diamond Sports Group reached a carriage renewal earlier this week, he understands the inconvenience that the hindrance is causing. After all, the Kansas City Royals, who are locally broadcast on television by Bally Sports Kansas City, are coming off the best April performance in franchise history and currently sit second in the American League Central division. While Fescoe remarked that many people are likely acquiescing and paying to stream games direct-to-consumer on the Bally Sports app, he also connected a recent sale for two months to a potential breakdown in these negotiations.

“I think there’s a danger of the TV world just going, ‘Well, will Amazon just pick it up?,’” Klingler said. “At some point they’re not going to buy everything [and] they’re not going to stream everything, and so I think there’s a danger in that too.”

Klingler conveyed that these decisions ultimately have to make business sense for OTT streaming providers such as Amazon-owned Prime Video. Even though he acknowledged that sports generally are met favorably in this scenario, he does not like leaning on it as a business proposition. Fescoe also made mention that if these networks ultimately become available through Amazon, it would likely be as an add-on service. Regardless of what happens though, he stated that the Bally Sports app is an alternative to view the events and that he was informed that they are working on the technology after numerous customer complaints.

Fescoe is cognizant of the fact that consumers do not like being “nickel and dimed” as it pertains to the television viewing experience. Additionally, he expressed his own observations that DirecTV always has an upsell and charges extra for niche packages. In the end, he thinks that it makes fiscal sense for consumers to forsake these companies and make the decisions for themselves as to what they want to watch and the services necessary to render it possible.

“That’s just the world we’re living in right now, and I know people get frustrated, and I’m frustrated with it, but I think ultimately at the end of the day, it may be just best just to get rid of cable altogether,” Fescoe said. “Just go straight to streaming; just purchase what you want and legitimately pay for what you are going to be watching, and I think that’s probably how you have to look at it now…. You almost have to have everything that’s out there to get everything that you want, but if you offer it á la carte, then I can just kind of go pick and choose what I want.”

Later in the show, Fescoe and Klingler read messages from listeners about alternative programming they would place on the Bally Sports-branded networks. One listener suggested that the Florida-based regional sports networks within the cluster should televise meth races and alligator wrestling. One listener was curious what would happen if the Bally Sports app and Audacy app were to get in a fight.

“Ours is free, so lay off,” Klingler replied. “…If an app is iffy but it’s free, I can give you some leeway, including ours. I’ll give you leeway, not just because it’s ours, but because it’s free. If I pay for one, it better sure as hell work. That to me is a definite distinction.”

Fescoe was amused by a suggestion to have 610 Sports Kansas City host Jay Binkley on Bally Sports Kansas City making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. It resulted in Klingler revealing that they had offered things to the regional sports network within the overall programming.

“Because Bally’s Kansas City is unlike some of the other ones – they don’t do their own programming,” Klingler said. “Basically, they carry the games and then they become [Bally Sports] Midwest or whatever and they carry some other stuff, so we offered like, ‘Hey, what about we do some stuff – the fun stuff.’ They were never interested.”

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