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Day Spent With: FOX Sports 1

“The most important part of the show is how we get along and how much we really love each other.”

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Day Spent With – FOX Sports 1 (FS1)

We’re nearing the finish line of BSM’s Day Spent With series. Today’s feature on Fox Sports 1 offers a peek into a day in the world of two sports television shows, The Carton Show and First Things First. My thanks to Craig, Nick, Chris, Kevin, Charlie Dixon and the Fox Sports PR and production teams for providing BSM with access to capture the daily happenings with both shows.

We have one more story still to come. That will drop next Friday March 29th. I think readers will enjoy what’s planned. This one involves sending Derek Futterman to a city that’ll help him with his pre-baseball season tan. I’m sure he’s looking forward to it.

In the meantime, enjoy the latest edition of a Day Spent With Fox Sports 1.

Jason Barrett

Part I: 7 – 9:30 a.m. EST: “The Carton Show”

Before the sun rises over the Big Apple, the city is full of people on the move to begin their workdays. During the mass travel time, FOX Sports 1 (FS1) personnel have been in the office for over two hours, holding a morning meeting to prepare for The Carton Show. The morning program utilizes a whiteboard to outline the nine segments that encompass the two-and-a-half hour show, which airs live on FS1 beginning at 7am ET.

Craig Carton is the eponymous host of the program. The former New York sports radio host frequently enjoyed radio ratings success and has begun settling into his new life as FS1’s morning man. The shift to television has allowed Carton to gain more time with his family, along with the ability to gain more sleep and work out, while still doing what he loves.

“Look, there’s an aspect of radio I’m always going to miss,” Carton said. “It’s also where I’ve been most successful throughout 30 years of a broadcast career, so there’s an aspect of that that I’m trying to capture now on TV, recognizing that it takes time to build that type of following and loyalty amongst an audience, but from a lifestyle standpoint, it’s been great.”

After a morning meeting and pre-show prep, Carton gets into the makeup chair a half-hour before air. He interacts with his colleagues set to catapult into the show with frenetic energy and enthusiasm. Within the confines of the multipurpose studio, he is in control of the playlist of music blasting through the speakers just minutes before the daypart officially commences. Co-hosts David Jacoby, Willie Colon and Tim Hardaway Sr. are conversing with one another, building genuine rapport and candor that translates onto the screen.

Throughout the show, Carton and his colleagues execute the game plan. They floor the gas pedal from the start of the show, this one specifically centered around discussion of the New York Knicks potentially attaining the #2 seed in the Eastern Conference.

“We come on the air [and] half the country’s sleeping,” Carton explained, “so if I’m talking to an audience that’s not watching because they’re in bed, that’s foolish, so I might as well embrace the audience that’s awake and talk about Baltimore, talk about New York, talk about Boston; talk about the East Coast teams who have really passionate fan bases.”

The opening segment lasts nearly five minutes, quickly taking a three-minute commercial break, a strategic maneuver to permit longer segments later on. Even so, there is palpable buzz and anticipation in the studio as they prepare for the second block of the show.

Once those in the control room count them back in, Carton asserts that the New York Jets’ current roster construction encapsulates the best iteration of the team in his lifetime. Carton’s take prompts Colon to disagree and reference different eras in Jets history. Hardaway advances the discussion by proposing a trade that would send the Jets the first-overall pick from the Chicago Bears in exchange for starting quarterback Aaron Rodgers, igniting debate about its feasibility.

“A lot of sports fans are waking up in the morning and sort of [use] our show as a download,” Jacoby explained, “which is something we take into consideration in terms of tone, but also pace because we want to go [at] a pretty quick pace [to be] part of people’s morning routines.”

The program moves into baseball discussion through its “Around the Diamond” segment, showcasing moments from around the sport as MLB gears up for its regular season. A video of former New York Yankees manager Joe Torre attending a spring training game and going to the mound to make a pitching change elicits a maelstrom of laughter, causing Hardaway to question why his presence is a story in the first place. Little did anyone realize that this would become an ongoing discussion for today’s show, something Carton attributes to the style of their production meetings.

“I kind of don’t like hearing those conversations before a show because you don’t want to lose your best material there,” Carton said, “and if I saw Tim go nuts in the meeting before the show, we never would have had the moment on the show.”

Carton believes that the morning program is the most entertaining show on television across any network, offering self-deprecation and humor through the lens of sports. There are elements of Carton’s radio approach on the FS1 airwaves, but the program is a bonafide television show rather than a radio simulcast. There are graphics, game highlights and other visual elements activated by the control room located two floors above the studio. A team of producers, directors and coordinators are on hand to ensure the program runs smoothly and allows its hosts to be successful.

Staff members in the control room make sure to clip Hardaway discussing Torre to bring back later in the program, along with loading posts into social media using Tagboard. The show rundown and graphics take place in iNews, the latter of which is subsequently played out through Viz Trio.

“We’ve got the roadmap right there, but we just don’t always stick to it, so it’s usually those three-minute breaks between segments [when] I always check in,” Jacoby said. “We always make sure Craig, Willie and I are on the same page, so there’s a lot of communication, but you’d be surprised that sometimes there’s not too much at all because we’re just kind of going.”

Jacoby was not an original on-air cast member of The Carton Show, initially serving as a consultant. Prior to his work with FS1, he was with ESPN for over two decades working as a producer for Grantland and host of Jalen & Jacoby. This past August, FS1 added Jacoby as a co-host to the program.

“I’ve been on daily shows my entire life, and once you get the routine down, you kind of get it, and it was also a little bit of an adjustment just sort of editorially,” Jacoby said. “This is a lot of fun; there’s a lot of focus on laughs, focus on fun, and I really enjoy that about this show.”

As the program reaches its conclusion, Carton and his colleagues address a variety of topics including posterizing NBA dunks, the United Football League and a job posting to work on the Orlando Magic social media team. The clock strikes 9am and the studio lights begin to flash for Carton’s ‘Top 5 at 9’ segment, in which he ranks storylines and briefly discusses them on the program.

Members of the show shout each number as Carton reveals his selection, some of which included the Dallas Cowboys clearing cap space, the start of March Madness and losses on the Baltimore Ravens’ offensive line. The #1 topic pertains to his belief that 2024 will be a year in which New York sports flourish, deeming the Knicks, Rangers and Jets all have a chance to potentially win championships.

“We’ll talk about certain events, teams and players that I would never talk about on WFAN,” Carton said. “That was the learning curve for me for sure – what’s important to the national audience that was never important to me doing local radio, no matter where I’ve worked over the course of my career. Once you figure out what are kind of the hot-button teams and players and topics that’ll attract the biggest audience, you embrace it and do it.”

Over the last six months, The Carton Show has attained double-digit, year-over-year growth. Carton believes that establishing a strong rhythm over the summer and heading into football season will help the show continue to flourish. In reflecting on his time with the show since departing WFAN, he feels content with where the show is but is determined to expand its following.

“You can have all the meetings you want about, ‘You’re this guy; you’re that guy. You do this; you do that,’ and that’s all well and good, but until you actually turn on the camera and say ‘Go’ and it’s real and it’s live, you can’t do it. You can’t figure out what works and what doesn’t work,” Carton said. “We’ve had pretty good growth in that regard, and like any show, there’s some growing pains and things that don’t always work, but I’ve always said I don’t mind failing on the biggest stage, and some bits don’t work and the only way to figure that out is by doing it.”

Part II: 3 – 4:30 p.m. EST: “First Things First”

Mere seconds after The Carton Show concludes, the conversion to First Things First is already underway in the main studio. Whereas select production staff work in the studio at the First Things First desk, the layout is essentially reversed for the afternoon program. Airing on FS1 during this studio transformation is Undisputed with Skip Bayless and a rotation of co-hosts, followed by The Herd with Colin Cowherd and Jason McIntyre, both operating out of Los Angeles.

Before The Carton Show was added to FS1, First Things First occupied the morning slot. That resulted in an early wake-up call for hosts Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes, along with its production staff. Since the move, the show has attained 18 consecutive months of year-over-year growth amid a record-setting 2023. The past 16 months have represented its 16 most-watched months in the history of First Things First.

“The biggest difference is you don’t get the first bite of everything,” Wright said. “[In] mornings, you’re the first one to talk about everything, so there is a little bit more of an element of telling people what happened. By the time people watch us, everyone knows what happened unless it’s breaking news.”

The pre-show meeting for First Things First occurs on Zoom shortly after the end of The Carton Show. The team formulates an idea of how the show can look based on the dialogue during that call. The hosts and additional staff then arrive at the New York City studios to prepare and engage prior to the 3pm ET start. Unlike the morning show, there’s no music playing in the studio and light discussion before taking the air, a more subdued environment. Few production staff members are situated in the studio itself, with a large majority of the technical duties occurring in the control room.

“The actual mechanics of what goes into making sure, ‘This full screen fires; this video plays,’ I’m lucky enough that I don’t really have to worry about that because it’s just always worked, and so to me it’s pretty seamless,” Wright said. “We have our morning meeting, we know what we’re talking about, we do our research – the stats or graphics we ask for, they do a great job of finding them – and then we put them on the show.”

Wildes begins First Things First with a preview of the discussion before immediately transitioning into the A-block topic of highlight-reel dunks in the NBA. A highlight of Minnesota Timberwolves guard Anthony Edwards leaping over Utah Jazz forward John Collins has made the rounds for sports fans, amassing millions of views on various platforms. Wildes then asks Broussard what he thought about the dunk, leading to a debate about how to adjudicate and measure the effectiveness of a dunk. Even though Wildes is a co-host, not a moderator, he has the versatility to contribute to many areas of the show.

“Some segments, I don’t need to say anything and those guys can just cook,” Wildes explained. “Some segments, I should do a little bit more [and] some segments I should do a little bit less, so whatever it takes for me to help the segment, I’m willing to do and will do obviously.”

The second half of the opening segment discussed whether Edwards’ play is similar to six-time NBA champion and Hall of Fame guard Michael Jordan. Broussard, who covered the National Basketball Association for several decades, revealed later in the opening block that he reached out to Jordan himself for his opinion on the perceived correlation. Jordan told him that he sees the similarities in he and Edwards’ games, leaving Wright somewhat nonplussed that his co-host was talking with the superstar guard.

“You gain an insight and perspective and knowledge that I didn’t even know I didn’t have, but I learned so many things over the years,” Broussard said of his time as a beat reporter. “And then obviously the connections – I don’t talk to people like I used to when I was a reporter, but I still talk to guys, and can reach out to get perspectives and different thoughts on what’s going on in the league.”

After First Things First concludes, Broussard drives back to his home and is on the phone with a FOX Sports Radio producer to prepare for his evening show, The Odd Couple, which he co-hosts with Rob Parker. Balancing both roles can be a challenge and leads to busy weekdays. Chris though enjoys both jobs, appreciating the opportunity to talk sports for a combined four-and-a-half hours each day.

“It’s nice because since I’ve been at FOX, which has just been TV and radio for me, I get weekends off, or at least technically off,” Broussard said. “Obviously NFL season – Sunday is wall-to-wall football watching all the games, but for a sportswriter that’s unique. My first [26] years in the business, weekends were not off. The Saturday’s no different than Tuesday, so it’s nice to have that set schedule.”

The basketball discussion continues throughout First Things First and culminates with Wright’s ‘King of the Hill’ segment. Members of the production team drape the desk with a customized mound of actual grass to represent the proverbial hill, which has different tiers to rank NBA players. Wright ended up placing Edwards at its summit, explaining why he awarded the 22-year-old phenom with an apogee in the segment thus far.

Since Wildes joined First Things First in 2020, the hosts have built camaraderie and friendship, going out to dinner and attending sporting events together. They all root for one another to succeed and look to enable prosperity rather than serving as a hindrance to that therein. Broussard stated that he has been on shows where people did not talk to each other off the air, and he has also heard stories of hosts being hesitant to give their opinions in pre-show meetings out of fear that it would be stolen. Although Wright, Broussard and Wildes have different idiosyncrasies and areas of expertise, their personalities effectively blend together to create a captivating and enthralling afternoon program.

“The most important part of the show is how we get along and how much we really love each other,” Wright said. “The #1 comment I get is, ‘It feels like friends talking sports,’ and the reason it feels like that is because it is that, so you have that element. You have each of our unique backgrounds, [and] you have, in my opinion, the best staff of producers of any show in sports TV, and it allows for a show that hopefully works.”

The hosts interact with one another during commercial breaks, using the time to communicate as well with the production staff and check social media. Wright looks for breaking news between segments, something he believes may be attributable to his background in sports radio. After all, he worked in the format for 610 Sports in Kansas City and Sports Radio 610 in Houston.

“If you can carry a four-hour solo radio show, then you can talk to yourself, so then you can talk to other people once you learn how to do that,” Wright said. “You can formulate arguments; on those shows, you have to argue with yourself almost – you present the prosecution and then the devil’s advocate defense. So yeah, my radio background was more helpful for my television career than anything could have possibly been.”

With every edition of First Things First, Wildes hopes the cast delivers smarts, smiles and surprise, something that was taught to him earlier in his career. While at ESPN, Wildes served as the vice president of original content for NBA studio production and found a way to make the transition to work on camera. Nonetheless, the managerial and production background has granted him a deeper cognizance of the day-to-day operation and staying focused on the current moment.

“It’s very [New England] Patriots-esque where, ‘Hey, what’s your goal for the postseason? Like, ‘Man, we’re just trying to have good practice,’” Wildes said. “Let’s, tonight, try to put some good stuff in the document; tomorrow, try to prepare a good show; and then try to do a good show. I don’t really look too far down the road, not because I’m not goal-oriented necessarily or not because we don’t want success, but I just think the path there is 10 feet in front of you.”

The day concludes with the First Things First hosts participating in a quasi-press conference that is recorded for social media. Wright, Broussard and Wildes all share their evaluations of the program sitting in front of a step-and-repeat speaking into a microphone adorned with a First Things First mic flag.

The studio’s focus then immediately shifts to the next day with the production day for The Carton Show beginning in approximately 12 hours. Even so, there is incessant brainstorming and communication, safeguarding against unpreparedness while always being set to discuss breaking news should it arise. For now though, everyone gathers their belongings and looks forward to reconvening tomorrow morning well before the sun can greet them anew.

“It’s constant prep in that you’re always staying on top of the news,” Broussard said. “There’s a lot of reading, a lot of watching other sports and obviously all the games, and then you just come up with your own take.”

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Jen Lada Has Built a Multiplatform Presence at ESPN

“I always say my job is to make the viewer care about somebody and root for somebody that they might ordinarily not root for or care about.”

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When Jen Lada appeared on Around the Horn earlier in the month, she became the 58th panelist to be part of the program since its launch in 2002. Facing off against three other panelists from around the country, she garnered a victory in her on-air debut and elicited plaudits from her colleagues. Throughout the program, Lada demonstrated her deft sports knowledge and nuanced opinions that have crafted her into a venerated, skilled reporter at the network.

Although she had appeared on many ESPN programs previously, Around the Horn represented a show to which she wanted to contribute for many years. In fact, she has memories of watching the show just out of Marquette University and remarking about its brilliance and ingenuity.

Utilizing reporters with comprehensive knowledge of various sports who have chronicled several events, the show provides them an opportunity to give their opinions on issues and engage in debate with their contemporaries. Lada earned a spot on the show by being persistent, continuing to express her proficiency in commentary and sports discussion. The journey to arrive at this stage of her career, through which she has realized high-level assignments and a presence both at the local and national level, required adaptability and fortitude, and she continues to never take opportunities for granted.

“It’s great that I won, but it just sets the bar really high for the next time I go out there, which is not something I’m afraid of,” Lada said. “I love a challenge, and I love proving to myself that I can keep trying new things and doing new things well, and I hope that if people see me as some sort of example in the industry, that that’s what they walk away with.”

The approach adopted by Lada within her multifarious career ventures is to develop and maintain versatility, always innovating within her approach to content. As she looks to build off her initial victory on Around the Horn, she aims to be more compendious in her discourse and applying a more succinct approach. Making the adjustment in order to deliver compelling, distinctive points quickly differs from her other work, but it is all ultimately centered on sports.

While studying at Marquette University, she observed her classmates having a conversation about the men’s basketball team and what had happened in a recent game. Lada, who at the time was dating a player on the team and cheerleading at games, began to give her thoughts and was subsequently asked if she had ever considered sportscasting.

“I didn’t know that women could be sportscasters,” Lada said. “It wasn’t on my radar as a real career that women held because there were so few of them at the time doing it, and so once I realized that that was something I could do, then I kind of turned all my attention to, ‘Well, how do I make this happen?’”

As Lada began to complete internships and navigate through the media industry, she learned to develop a thick skin and refined her conduct. Out of school, she had completed a year of a non-paid sports internship and was waitressing on the side to pay the bills. The first interview she took for a job at a television station in a top-10 market ended with her being sexually harassed. It was a jarring experience that disappointed Lada because of her propensity to give people the benefit of the doubt, and it also forced her to evaluate her own disposition.

“I think it’s only natural that you wonder how you contributed to the circumstance or what you could have done differently to maybe not put yourself in that space,” Lada said, “but I was very lucky that when I told my family about what had occurred, they very quickly knocked any notion of that out of my head.”

In navigating the industry with good intentions, Lada recognized that it is not her fault if other people fail at treating others professionally and create a misogynistic work environment. Receiving the lesson early in her career has made her more aware of the people to avoid, and she remains wary of advice given to women in the industry that they should just be nice. Lada was recently on a panel where someone advised a broadcast class that being nice would result in things working out for them in the future.

“I felt myself cringing internally because I don’t think that that is a luxury women are afforded,” Lada said. “I don’t think – maybe now is different, but when I was coming up, and I’ve been doing this for more than 20 years, there were people who preyed on niceness. And so the way that I would tweak that is to be professional; to carry yourself in a professional manner and recognize that sometimes being ‘traditionally nice’ puts a target on your back to be mistreated, and the best thing you can do is alert those people who would see you as a target that you’re not going to fall victim to that or you refuse to be victim to that.”

Lada joined ESPN in 2015 where she was hired to contribute to Colin Cowherd’s radio program. When Cowherd left the network and joined FOX Sports on a full-time basis, she started co-hosting a new, national program alongside Jorge Sedano. The show, however, had an evanescent run and left her feeling as if she had failed.

It took her a full year to recognize that she had been involved in a series of circumstances and decided to enact the necessary change, asking producers for advice and attending seminars. One of these was an interviewing course hosted by journalist John Sawatsky where he synthesized the art of the craft. Akin to when she was in college, she overheard in passing that the network needed more women in the features space.

“I was fortunate enough to have done a lot of features during my time in Milwaukee because we had a 9 p.m. newscast that required a local sports feature every night of the week, so between our three-person department, we had to fill that timeslot,” Lada said. “I had done a lot of lengthy sports features in Milwaukee [and] had a good foundation of what that job required.”

The meeting led to Lada doing features on an interim basis at the network and later granted her a spot on College GameDay, where she works as its features reporter. Lada presents stories every week to the audience that go beyond the gameplay and divulge a bigger picture.

“I always say my job is to make the viewer care about somebody and root for somebody that they might ordinarily not root for or care about,” Lada said. “One of the things that has occurred to me over the last few years is just what a skill is required to do that job well because not only are you preparing questions to ensure that you have all of the details and information, you’re also gathering perspective on what they’ve been through – the adversity and the situation that has led them to where they are now.”

Lada recently found herself in a high school classroom at 8 a.m. sitting with other students taking the ACT standardized test. She had to complete the exam as punishment for finishing last in fantasy football at ESPN Milwaukee this past season. After four hours, Lada emerged from the school and revealed her score this past week on the Jen, Gabe, and Chewy morning show. Hosting the local program alongside Gabe Neitzel and Mark Chmura, she has established chemistry over almost four years in the three-person format discussing hyperlocal topics.

“I try to be conversational,” Lada said. “We don’t lean on stats – obviously, we want to be accurate, and we want to be, again, fair to the subjects we’re talking about, but we try to also just be friends who are talking about what’s going on on any given day on the Milwaukee [and] Wisconsin sports scene.”

In balancing a variety of different roles, Lada has tried to master everything that she is doing, refraining from being content with her abilities. Although working in local radio regularly has been a newer role for her, she has grown into the job and has co-hosts who understand the subject matter and allow her to utilize her strengths.

“I just want to keep learning,” Lada said. “I’m not satisfied with what I’ve done, [and] I’m not complacent about the skills I have. I’m always interested in adding more jobs to the résumé, and I think that in this industry, you’re rewarded for versatility.”

Once College GameDay commences, Lada adds the responsibility of feature reporting on that program to her schedule and continues making appearances across additional ESPN programming. Lada hosted the Friday edition of College Football Live last season and has also filled in as a host on shows such as First Take and SportsCenter. Moreover, she continues to complete projects for SC Featured and is working on a documentary for E:60 scheduled to premiere later in the summer. 

Lada aims to keep showcasing her indefatigable work ethic and passion for the craft without slowing down. Whether it is hosting a podcast, taking part in more panels or writing essays, she is open to exploring new forms of disseminating stories.

“I have a lot of knowledge and experience rattling around my brain, [and] I think the next iteration is figuring out a way to continue passing those experiences on to the next generation.” Lada said. “I don’t ever want to gatekeep the secrets of success – I think that’s selfish – so as I continue to do the media work, I think the next phase for me is figuring out how to pass a lot of these lessons on to future broadcasting generations.”

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Local Radio Advertisers Can Become Experts with Hosted Shows and Interviews

Overall, local radio interviews and talk shows can be a strategic and effective way for a local expert to enhance their business, build their reputation, and connect with the community.

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When looking for that extra edge for local radio advertisers, packaging radio commercials with an “expert” client-hosted talk show or interviews on your local shows or newscasts can be a game-changer. This strategy can build long-term business relationships with suitable clients, such as lawyers, business accountants, agents, psychologists, or sports handicappers. These professionals can provide valuable editorial contributions to sports and news stations. Of course, the expert must have good communication skills, be comfortable speaking their mind, and be ready to be the face of the business.

The radio commercials can tout the expertise the person has and give a call to action for listeners to move on. You can often find these experts on social media writing blogs or doing a series of vignettes about their business. For these types of clients, engaging in local radio news interviews or hosting a 1-2 hour talk show can enjoy several advantages:

Visibility and Brand Recognition

Visibility and Brand Recognition: Regular appearances on local radio help the expert become a well-known figure in the community. This visibility can lead to increased recognition and brand awareness and is a much faster track than just blogging on social media. Attorney Bill Handel and his ” Handel on the Law” show have created a directory business for Handel.

Public Trust and Credibility

By sharing their expertise and providing timely insights, the expert can build trust and establish credibility with the audience. Being perceived as an expert can enhance any client’s reputation and create top-of-mind awareness needed to lead business categories.

Client Acquisition

Listeners impressed by the expert’s knowledge and demeanor may seek their services. This exposure can lead to new clients who might not have been reached through other forms of advertising and give credibility to the expert who uses social media.

Community Engagement

Engaging with the local community through radio shows helps experts connect with potential clients more personally. This can foster a sense of community and loyalty. Question and answer segments can lead to deeper connections.

Educational Outreach

The expert can educate the audience on various issues, which can empower the audience. An informed audience is more likely to recognize when they need the expert’s assistance and whom to contact.

Stand Out in a Crowd

Stand out in a crowd: Being active on local radio can set the expert apart from competitors who may not use local radio. Often, the local shows or interview segments are exclusive to the expert.

Immediate Audience Feedback

Interacting with the audience through call-ins or live questions provides immediate feedback and allows the expert to address common concerns directly in real-time. The expert can be of service NOW.

Professional Development

Regularly discussing current topics can keep the expert sharp on trends and issues, contributing to their ongoing professional development.

Networking

Local radio stations often have a vast network of listeners and other professionals. This can open doors to new professional relationships and opportunities for collaboration. The station also provides a loyal audience who typically don’t follow the expert on social media. But they may start to after hearing the expert.

Overall, local radio interviews and talk shows can be a strategic and effective way for a local expert to enhance their business, build their reputation, and connect with the community.

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‘We Need To Talk’ is Insightful, Intelligent Conversation on CBS Sports Network

The show is not going to be a ratings giant like ESPN’s First Take or offer the decibel level of commentary on FS1’s First Things First, but it is a necessary and unique slice of sports television.

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CBS Sports Network’s ‘We Need To Talk‘ features a rotating roundtable of female sportscasters offering their views on a variety of topics in sports. The premise is important. Female voices in sports need to be heard. They bring perspective, weighty conversation, and thoughtfulness to each discussion.

Over the past few years, women have made major strides in being heard and seen in sports media whether it is hosting, commentary, reporting or play-by-play. This is a good trend, but We Need To Talk is about more than just female talking heads. It’s about insight, depth, and needed attention to athletes and sports that do not bask in the mainstream limelight.

This particular episode featured host AJ Ross joined by Summer Sanders, Katrina Adams, and Renee Montgomery. It was an eclectic and accomplished group with Ross, an experienced and versatile reporter, Sanders, the erstwhile U.S. Swimming star and a broadcast veteran, Montgomery, the former WNBA star, activist, and co-owner of the WNBA’s Atlanta Dream, and Adams, former tennis player, CEO of the United States Tennis Association, and chair of the US Open.

Montgomery got the conversation going looking back on the Celtics winning the NBA Championship. She also made a telling comparison between the Celtics-Lakers rivalry, renewed in the 1980s with Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, and compared it to the current WNBA rivalry between the Indiana Fever and Chicago Sky with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. It’s a valid comparison, and Montgomery brought it to life effectively.

The WNBA was up next with Montgomery talking about Cameron Brink, the LA Sparks’ rookie who is making a splash not only on the court, but on the social media and fashion scenes as well.

It should be noted that this episode of We Need To Talk was taped before Brink suffered a season ending torn ACL, but Montgomery’s point was clear. It is not only important to be a great player. Today’s athletes also need to use multimedia platforms to raise their profiles.

Adams segued into a discussion on Wimbledon and No. 2 ranked Coco Gauff. It was good to hear some tennis talk on the airwaves, but this is a hallmark of We Need To Talk. The show makes it a point to move beyond the front-page stories and hit angles and areas that do not get much coverage.

These ladies are not afraid to get in each other’s grills as well. Sanders actually interrupted Adams to start a discussion about the upcoming Paris Olympics, but Adams would not relent and moved forward to an analysis of 2023 Wimbledon men’s singles winner Carlos Alcaraz.

The variety of sports continued with Ross starting a discussion about US track star Sha’Carri Richardson. I’ve been a fan of Ross for a long time. She does an expert job of mixing in her own commentary, while making sure all of the panelists on We Need To Talk get their due time. She’s also multitalented, seamlessly moving from reporter to host to debater.

We Need To Talk takes its roots in diversity with an all-female cast, but there is a deeper variety within the makeup of the cast. Sanders is a longtime veteran of sports, sports broadcasting, and entertainment. Ross is in the prime of her journalistic career. Adams brings perspective as an athlete, administrator, and leader, and Montgomery offers a fresh and contemporary style with her commentary.

Block 2 of the show featured Montgomery and Ross interviewing Naomi Girma of the San Diego Wave women’s professional soccer team. Girma was named 2023 US Soccer Women’s Player of the Year, the first defender to ever win that award. This is what We Need To Talk offers those who watch the show. It is almost like a smaller scale, studio version of the classic Wide World of Sports on ABC, “spanning the globe to bring you the constant variety of sport.”

The interview was managed well with Ross asking meaningful questions and Montgomery enthusiastically following up with her thoughts and input. This edition of the program also featured a wonderfully produced feature story on USC basketball player Aaliyah Gayles.

The talented Trojan hoopster was on the fast track to basketball stardom when, in April 2022, she was shot at a house party in Las Vegas. Gayles required two emergency surgeries to save her life.

The pace, video, and sound bites in the package were equal parts frightening, sobering, and uplifting. Gayles literally had to learn how to walk again as the feature focused on her rehabilitation and eventual return to the USC lineup.

Coming back from a break, the panel engaged in a great discussion on the talent link between collegiate and US Olympic athletes. A graphic showed that 75% of Team USA athletes and 82% of United States medalists played an NCAA sport.

As the discussion expanded, Montgomery talked about the fact that in order to enter the WNBA, players have to complete four years of college or be of the age of someone who has completed four years of college. I actually did not know that. We Need To Talk passes my personal litmus test for important sports television, namely, it tells me something I don’t already know.

Bringing still another sport and recognizable female athlete into the fold, Dara Torres joined the show next for an interview. The 12-time Olympic swimming medalist talked about her new role as head coach of the Boston College men’s and women’s swim and dive teams. Sanders asked a solid question about how, as a world-class athlete, Torres will manage her expectations of the BC athletes.

 As sports continues to meld with social issues, so too does the subject matter on We Need To Talk. Ross introduced a segment on the National Gay Flag Football League. Again, kudos go to the show’s production team for a slick and enlightening feature story. Praise should also go to the program itself for expanding the boundaries of sports and opening up a whole new world of knowledge for viewers.

Following the feature story, Montgomery and Adams made a point that sports unite people and bring diverse groups and personalities together as one. Montgomery is a fast-developing on-air talent. Her wit, energy, and knowledge go far beyond the basketball court making her a rising star in sports media.

The program continued to bring sports and life together by connecting the June celebrations of Pride Month and Father’s Day with an emotional poem written by renowned DJ Zeke Thomas, the son of NBA Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas. This was part of the We Need to Listen segment of the program.

Let’s keep it real. We Need To Talk is not going to be a ratings giant like ESPN’s First Take or offer the decibel level of commentary on FS1’s First Things First, but it is a necessary and unique slice of sports television.

The show consistently provides uncommon subject matter with an inimitable approach and tenor. Check it out when you get a chance and bring an open mind and a joy of sports. They need to talk, and we all need to hear them talk.

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