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Eavesdropping: The Right Time with Bomani Jones

“I’m going to be honest with you, at this time of year I’m not trying to watch more sports than is absolutely necessary.”

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If you’re a sports fan, chances are you already know plenty about Bomani Jones. If you’re a fan of strong sports opinions, you definitely know about Bomani Jones and probably already seek out his content. I ‘ve always enjoyed hearing Jones’ takes on sports because I know no matter the topic, he’s put good thought into what he is saying and frankly he’s much smarter than I am (and most people for that matter). I saw some topics on one of his recent podcasts that made me want to tune in and do an eavesdropping feature on the June 24 episode of The Right Time with Bomani Jones.

Jones’ podcast is part of Wave Sports + Entertainment’s portfolio and has been since the last quarter of 2023. Wave is the group behind podcasts from the Kelce brother’s, Carmelo Anthony and Paul George.

His podcast, which he does with producer Sean Yoo, started out as a radio show for ESPN Radio in 2015. Today, Jones drops his show three times per week on all major platforms and hits on the hot topics in sports, as well as major social topics, pop culture and more.

On this episode, Jones starts with a movie recommendation for the 1984 Talking Heads concert film, Stop Making Sense, which he said he watched because it was too hot to go outside in New York over the weekend. Jones said he did get out early to Morningside Park and even randomly ran into Browns quarterback Jameis Winston and his family.

“I don’t think either of us could believe that they were talking to the other in the place that they were in,” Jones said. “I have no idea why Jameis’ country ass was up on 116th street in Morningside, I have no clue. But he was there…Not the Empire State Building, not just walking around mid-town, not Times Square…the odds, very low.”

The heat led Jones to talk about his Sunday where he prefaced it by saying, “I’m going to be honest with you, at this time of year I’m not trying to watch more sports than is absolutely necessary.” However, stuck inside, he found the WNBA game between Caitlin Clark’s Indiana Fever and Angel Reese’s Chicago Sky.

Many have weighed in on the topic of the ‘rivalry’ between Clark and Reese and Jones wanted to talk about it, but he wanted to separate the basketball talk from the society and cultural talk. On the basketball side, Jones talked about how different the games are between men’s basketball and women’s basketball. “These are two different games,” he said. “Two very different games.”

And rather than acting like he had been a big WNBA fan for years, Jones openly admitted he knew very little about it. He wanted to talk about what he saw but wasn’t going to put himself out there as an expert when he was doing what most people were doing, which is taking in the product after having seen very little of it previously.

Jones noted that while the rivalry between Clark and Reese is being overly hyped, because of the positions they play, there is very little actual on-court interaction between the two. In the end, Jones noted in this game, “Both did great…everybody got what they needed out of it.”

As for the society and culture side of it, Jones had some advice for those trying to make this rivalry into something much more than it is. “Just don’t go too far,” he said. “We don’t need it to go all the way.” A simple sentence, but such a succinct point. These are two young women who are great at basketball, transitioning from college to the pros in a very short period of time. Maybe this doesn’t have to be a major cultural war every time they step on a court together.

After the topic wraps up, I loved how Jones and Yoo recapped it and wondered what negative topic people will pull from it and what people will rip into about the segment later on. You know it’s coming, so why not have a little fun with it.

The next topic was the Lakers introducing JJ Redick as their new head coach. I really appreciated how Jones started out this conversation. He named some other coaches that had done some broadcasting in addition to having been in coaching and some that had minimal coaching experience but had been broadcasters. One he mentioned was Steve Kerr, who he admitted he did not think would be a good head coach. His point as it related to Redick and how he would do as a head coach was simply, “I have no clue.”

Jones went on to compare Redick and LeBron James’ relationship to that of an apartment building owner and the building superintendent. He said Redick is the superintendent, who everyone sees as in charge, except for the building owner, who in this case is LeBron. “JJ knows who’s in charge, and it’s LeBron,” Jones said.

Jones added that “The idea that JJ has enough of a basketball brain to do a podcast with LeBron does not necessarily mean he has the basketball brain that LeBron thinks is necessary to coach him.” He added he thinks a lot of it will come down to Redick’s relationship with the rest of the roster, most importantly Anthony Davis (*note, this episode dropped before the Lakers drafted Bronny James).

Jones pointed out things Redick had said about AD when he was calling games for ESPN, noting he had brought up once that Davis only plays when he feels 100%. “Who we saw on television, did not seem like he would get along great with players…the podcast was different,” he added about Redick.

Jones said he sees the Pat Riley comparisons “with the nice suits, but that doesn’t sound like a basketball observation, that sounds like a vibe.”

Now that the two major sports topics were covered, the show takes a bit of a left turn as Jones and Yoo turn their attention to a segment called, ‘If You Haven’t Heard’ where audio clips of news stories are played, and Jones reacts. In this episode, the topics were about the world running out of soldiers and whether the United States could ever again implement a draft, how male politicians dress and an investigative report on pesticides being used on legal weed.

The show ends in great fashion and something a lot of podcasters forget about and that is interaction with the audience. Jones and Yoo had been engaging with their fans on YouTube throughout the show, but this final segment contained voicemails from listeners on the topic of a player people grew up hating. “A lot of haters calling in,” Yoo said.

Jones explained it was the brother of a friend of his brothers who hated Steve Kerr which made him think of this topic. The first person who called in was from Boston who had an irrational hatred for Tom Brady due to his fandom for Drew Bledsoe. The next was a guy who hated Paul Pierce because as a kid, the caller heckled Pierce at a camp and Pierce replied by making fun of his layup.

And then, in a wonderful surprise, our very own Demetri Ravanos, aka ‘Demetri The Greek,’ who is an Alabama grad, phoned in to talk about his hatred of Tommy Tuberville. Demetri said that while he doesn’t agree with much of anything Tuberville the politician has to say, “He could be in line, lock step with me politically, doing nothing but good for this country and I would still hate that motherf**er because he coached Auburn.”

The laugh from Jones on the final call was worth the listen alone.

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Nate Bukaty is On the Road With MLS After 810 WHB Exit

“It was becoming too much, so something had to give, and that was kind of the choice I made.”

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Over the last several years, Nate Bukaty has earned a plethora of frequent flyer miles through his global travels to call soccer games. Although being away from Kansas City on a regular basis is something he considers to be the most challenging part of his job, he understands that everything comes at a price.

Realizing a sustainable work-life balance is essential in ensuring he can achieve his professional aspirations without sacrificing time with his family, which represents the top priority in his life. Bukaty tries to make his trips worthwhile by doing something unique to the location; in fact, he keeps a map in his basement with pushpins denoting the places he has visited over the years. Aside from his business-related travel, he also tries to take every member of his family on a trip throughout the year.

The amount of travel in sports broadcasting during the season renders it more complicated to remain committed to local Kansas City sports full time. Over the previous year, there had been episodes of The Border Patrol morning show on Sports Radio 810 WHB for which he was absent because of his play-by-play obligations.

On top of that, he is trying to ensure that he is present for his family when he is in town. Bukaty estimates that he is on the road for more than 100 days amid the season, underscored by his role with Apple TV on its MLS Season Pass property. At the end of May, he officially announced his exit from the full-time hosting position on the program alongside co-host Steven St. John and producer Jake Gutierrez, marking a seminal change in the Kansas City sports radio landscape.

“It was very difficult,” Bukaty said. “Talk radio wasn’t something that I necessarily wanted to get into in the first place, and honestly if it hadn’t been for the right fit with Steven and Jake and the rest of our staff, I’m not sure I would have ever done it.”

Bukaty considers himself fortunate to have worked in sports talk radio and is remaining with the show as a regular contributor. Moreover, he is focusing on his role calling games for Apple and hosting SCORELINE for the CBS Sports Golazo Network. In moving away from his position on The Border Patrol after 17 years, he finds it hard to believe that all of the time passed by. 

“Just from a time management standpoint, trying to stay up on all of the local sports to the point where I can host a four-hour talk show, let alone the four hours every morning, from a time commitment standpoint cuts into my preparation for getting ready for the games,” Bukaty said. “It was becoming too much, so something had to give, and that was kind of the choice I made.”

Throughout his professional journey, which has been grounded in versatility and consistent adaptation, hosting sports talk radio had long been a constant with an indefatigable mindset rooted in advancement and humility. Part of the reason he decided to make the announcement on his final day rather than doing so ahead of time was that he did not feel it would surprise the audience. St. John, Gutierrez and his colleagues at the radio station were aware of his decision and remained familiar with the process.

“I kept them involved with everything that was happening because I would never want to put them in a situation where I blindsided them because they’ve been so great to me for so long, and I want to stay involved with the radio station because I love the place,” Bukaty said, “so I wouldn’t have wanted to do anything that blindsided them at all.”

Bukaty started hosting The Border Patrol in 2007 upon the departure of Bob Fescoe when he relocated to St. Louis. Moving into a space giving his opinion while trying to remain objective in his other work indicated a new predicament within his work. After providing his authentic thoughts on players, coaches and executives, he would then proceed to cover those personnel shortly thereafter.

“I really loved the opportunity to have access to being on a major league television network and being on a successful morning show, and I loved all those things,” Bukaty said, “but that’s one thing I didn’t like about it was trying to balance two very different jobs at the same time.”

Having worked with St. John throughout his entire time on The Border Patrol, Bukaty regards him as both the funniest and wittiest sports personality in the area. The dichotomy between their personalities and professional backgrounds, he believes, fostered a synergy among the show that facilitated success and captivated the audience.

“We’re not the type of hot-take guys that are going to try to stir up a whole bunch of controversy and get everybody fired up and wound up,” Bukaty said. “We’re more likely to try to make you laugh or put a smile on your face and find a humorous spin on things while still giving people good information.”

Bukaty does not remember having a conversation about the ratings for the show in many years, nor does he believe the station subscribes to the metrics in the first place. In considering competition within local sports radio, including Audacy-owned 610 Sports Radio, he has nothing but respect for everyone at the station. Early in his career, he hosted Bulldog and Bukaty with Fescoe, whom his show has gone up against in morning drive since 2010.

“Honestly, this might sound like B.S. but I swear it’s true, we never spent any time talking about what they were doing,” Bukaty said of 610 Sports Radio. “We just focused on trying to do the show we thought we wanted to do [and] a show that we thought was entertaining, so if we think it’s entertaining, then hopefully the audience does too.”

Rather than measuring success by quantifiable data such as cume, average quarter-hour persons and time spent listening, Bukaty evaluated the performance of the show through the station clientele. While he is not sure it is the right approach, he was interested in ensuring clients received the response from the audience they were looking for. Bukaty always checked in with his clients, who he said felt they were getting a positive return on investment in working with him. An aspect of that success came through their genuine dispositions and candor.

“We have events where we get to meet a lot of listeners,” Bukaty said, “and I think they appreciate we were a couple of authentic Kansas City guys that weren’t really trying to be something that we’re not.”

Starting in the 2015 season, Bukaty served as the lead commentator for Sporting Kansas City within Major League Soccer. A few years later, Bukaty added to his workload by delivering play-by-play for FOX Sports broadcasts of Major League Soccer games and also covered international competitions including the Gold Cup.

“I try to tell my kids all the time, ‘Step outside of your comfort zone – that’s when personal growth happens,’ and I did women’s MMA for a year, for example, and I didn’t have nearly enough education on that at the time and it helped me grow as a broadcaster,” Bukaty stated. “It helped me grow as a soccer commentator by doing that because it caused me to look at things in some different ways.”

Bukaty desires to make an impact beyond the broadcast booth, a principle instantiated by Kansas City Royals play-by-play announcer Ryan Lefebvre. As Bukaty began to experience success, Lefebvre called to congratulate him and then asked what he was going to do with it. After losing a close friend to cancer, Bukaty decided to start the Sean D. Biggs Memorial Foundation to raise money and awareness for cancer prevention research. Throughout the year, the charitable organization hold events and fundraising efforts, along with three scholarships a year for college students to study abroad.

“[The foundation has] also helped me – it was really just a big coping mechanism for me,” Bukaty said. “All the pain I felt when my friend died, it’s not pain anymore. It’s like just this deep sense of gratitude for everything that’s come ever since, which is a nice place to be. I like being in that place better than just being angry.”

Through his play-by-play announcing and hosting ventures, Bukaty is living out his childhood dream and wants to make sure that he does not have any regrets. Yet he also wants to keep learning, remaining attuned to new innovations and aware of what is coming next. He does not subscribe to the common maxim, “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks,” instead asserting that it comes down to whether or not someone wants to learn new things.

“I don’t want to just coast at any point in my life,” Bukaty said. “I just want to keep growing, and that, I feel like, is a good place to be because I think earlier in my career, I probably was a little more focused on, ‘Oh, I’ve got to get this job.’”

Even though Bukaty understands that it will be competitive to earn a spot on the broadcasting roster for the 2026 FIFA World Cup, being selected for the coveted assignment is a goal that he hopes to realize. If an opportunity to return to sports radio on a full-time basis becomes available, he would never rule it out, saying it would depend on the options, family priorities and other circumstances.

“I’m always feeling like, ‘Well, I’m not as talented as everybody else, so I better be willing to outwork everybody and take any opportunities that come my way,’ and I’m glad I’ve done that because the industry changes constantly,” Bukaty said. “It’s constantly evolving, and if you can do more things, then you have a chance of surviving longer and also growing.”

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Sports Radio Hosts Need to Start Thinking About a Future Beyond AM/FM Radio

Look around you. Some big names and big brands in big markets have lost their radio jobs. It’s time to think about alternatives.

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It’s not exactly a banner time to be in the sports radio business for talent these days.

Any given day here at Barrett Sports Media, it feels like we’re writing a story that involves a host exiting the station they’ve been at for any decent amount of time due to budget cuts.

If it was due to saying something stupid on the air, getting a DUI, a domestic violence incident, or something similar, it wouldn’t make me question the medium’s future. Unfortunately, the departures are almost universally tied to budget cuts in an attempt to juice an already comically low stock price, with the hope that — despite decades of evidence showing you that it isn’t the Secret Stuff needed to bring the price back up — this will be the time that eliminating jobs will help make radio more profitable.

Just take a gander in recent days. Darren Smith out at San Diego Sports 760. Everybody out at 590 The Fan in St. Louis. The Blitz 1170 in Tulsa? Shut down to run a 24-hour simulcast of local TV news broadcasts. Seriously.

Despite no longer being in a building on a day-to-day basis, if I were a sports radio host, I’d be looking around wondering ‘Am I next? Is our brand next? What can I do to mitigate any potential job loss?’

Because, more likely than not, the decision isn’t going to be yours. I’ll never forget sitting in a department head meeting and receiving word that our traffic director was going to retire. The business manager perked up in her seat and said “I’ve never thrown a retirement party before!” She had worked in radio for more than 40 years.

If that isn’t enough evidence for you to question what the future looks like, I don’t know what is.

There are a whole bevy of options out there to control your own destiny if you feel the AM/FM Radio walls closing in around you.

Start a video show on YouTube, Rumble, Twitch, X, Facebook Live, or all five. You’d be amazed at how little the start-up costs can be.

I know that everyone has a podcast these days, but it’s because the barrier to entry is so incredibly low.

You can start a Substack and write about … whatever you want. Utilize Patreon to go with it.

The options are bountiful. They increase if you have a loyal sponsor –like many sports radio hosts do.

I can completely understand how scary the idea of jumping out on your own can be. But many folks in the industry have created a blueprint for you. Whether it be Scott Kaplan, Mike Taylor, Landry Locker, or any others in a long list of hosts who have left the corporate world behind to do their own thing, it’s never been easier to monetize your own content and be your own boss.

Even starting something on the side — obviously that doesn’t break any stipulations in your contract — right now is a good idea. Just as a fallback plan. And who knows? Maybe someday it isn’t a fallback plan. It could be a nice leverage play in your next contract talks. Having a platform with a decent-sized audience can give you a “If you don’t hit this number, I’m just going to walk, do my own thing, and take some of your advertisers with me,” card that can be invaluable.

It’s a dog-eat-dog world out there. You can have a fantastic working relationship with a Market Manager, Program Director, Producer, co-host, or insert any other job here, but all of that can change in an instant. And if you don’t have someone fighting for you in a top position, it’s possible your days could be numbered just simply based on how much money you take home each paycheck.

Is that fair? No. Is it right? Hell no. But it is reality. You can guard against it, though.

Branch out and be the creator that you already are. If you’ve got listeners, there’s a reason for it. Leverage them and do something for you. I doubt you’ll regret it.

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Bronny James Will Be a Featured Summer Attraction on ESPN and NBA TV

This is a public player who has lived in the public eye.

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Look, it’s a storyline.

Is it a concocted storyline? Oh, yeah — but you already knew that. You knew it when Rich Paul, the agent for both Bronny James and Bronny’s father LeBron, reportedly started telling certain NBA teams to not bother drafting Bronny.

You knew it when the agent further said that Bronny would not be signing a two-way contract, meaning he wouldn’t agree to any deal that could involve him playing in the NBA’s G League. That might have given a few teams pause, considering Bronny’s college averages of, let’s see here, 4.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.1 assists per game.

You knew it when Bob Myers, the former top executive at Golden State, relayed during ESPN’s draft coverage that Paul was telling some teams, “If you take him, he’s going to Australia.”

And you knew it when the Lakers inevitably selected Bronny with the 55th overall pick in the second round, making this father-son thing official once LeBron re-signs. Woofed Magic Johnson on X, “Watching Bronny suit up for the Lakers during Summer League in Vegas will be must-see TV!”

So — yeah. Storyline.

The only questions now are who gets the rights (I’m going with SpringHill Company, but hey), how much access they’ll have (let’s assume total) and how soon we can expect a full series rollout. In the meantime, NBA TV and ESPN will reap the short-haul rewards.

Without a doubt, the NBA 2K25 Summer League gets a bump here, although I’ll be curious to see how fascinating people find it to watch Bronny play without his father. The bigger narrative arc, the one more people will warm to, is the idea of LeBron and his son on the court together — but that’s not what this time of year is about.

Also, Magic’s enthusiasms notwithstanding, Las Vegas won’t actually get the first crack at BronnyTV. That will almost certainly happen during the California Classic, an outgrowth of the Summer League that begins this weekend. ESPN goes first, then NBA TV:

Saturday: Lakers vs. Sacramento Kings, 4:30 p.m. ET on ESPN.

Sunday: Lakers vs. Warriors, 6:30 p.m. ET on NBA TV.

The Lakers’ first appearance in Las Vegas is set for Friday, July 12 against the Houston Rockets. That’s a 7:30 p.m. ET tip on ESPN, and the summer games then roll on for 10 days.

That is a lot of Bronny, assuming he plays and plays often. The Lakers will decide that. All that is known right now is that the younger James – whose lone season at USC was shortened by a serious health scare (a cardiac arrest during a summer workout), which was diagnosed as a congenital heart defect and required surgery to repair – is good to go.

Fair to say that Bronny never found his footing in college after that difficult turn of events. As the eldest son of LeBron, though, there’s a strong belief by some scouts in his upside, and Bronny reportedly helped his cause with a good showing at the pre-draft combine in Chicago. I mean, we’ll see.

Bronny can shoot the three and has court sense, and the Lakers’ Anthony Davis told ESPN before the draft that he supported L.A. taking LeBron’s kid.

“He’s very good defensively,” Davis said. “He can read the floor very well. I think he’s a really good playmaker. I saw him work out a couple times besides the pro day, and working with a big…His reads, reading the defense, making the right passes — that was really impressive to me.

“I think he’s going to be fine, man. Obviously, it’s a lot of pressure on him with his dad being who he is.”

You’d think so, but for Bronny and all the James gang, this is closer to situation normal. Their father has been famous for all of their lives; they’ve had cameras around them for all of their lives. Whatever Bronny has become as a basketball player, he’s achieved in the midst of that — or in spite of it, depending upon your view.

Microphones and stage lighting probably aren’t going to affect him much, considering that Bronny spent his high school years being featured in the LeBron-co-produced docuseries Top Class. This is a public player who has lived in the public eye.

Is he good enough to play in the NBA? Despite all the words spewed and images projected, it’s honestly anybody’s guess. But you won’t have to wonder for long — it’ll all be available to you, one way or another. In a different Lakers era, somebody would’ve called it Showtime.

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